On 15 Aug 2002 at 4:13, Hermit wrote:
>
> [Joe Dees] First, Hermit, I wonder why Pol Pot, Rwanda and Armenia
> were not mentioned. Just curious.
>
> [Hermit] Genocide. Horrible. Not perpetrated by supposedly civilized
> states.
>
> [Joe Dees] Second, and more germane, the total Palestinian death toll,
> in both intifadehs, has been in the low thousands;
>
> [Hermit] A better picture might be grasped when we realize that Israel
> has been almost continuously at war throughout its existence.... And
> we can play with periods to prove anything we like. War of
> Independence, 1948; Suez War, 1956; Israeli-Egyptian War, 1969-70; Yom
> Kippur War, 1973. Excluding the Lebanon incursion, which was not so
> much a war as a rout, that takes us to 43,000 to 70,000 military
> deaths and 51,000 civilians. Of that, Israel's losses were
> 6,800-11,100 killed, or a little less than 10% of the total.
>
And in most of those wars, it was Israel who was initially attacked; now
you're criticizing a country you dislike for having the temerity and
unmitigated gall to effectively defend itself. Sadly, increasingly typical
of you.
>
<snip bloated balance already effectively countered by jonathan>
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