On 27 Jul 2002 at 22:58, Dr Sebby wrote:
> ...Joe, i dont really have any personal problems with extreme punishment 
> including torture even for people that commit truly merciless,protracted and 
> pre-meditated acts of violence or abuse on others.  but the issue is that 
> across-the-board treatment of this sort cannot be done since it is very 
> possible that the wrong guy may be convicted.
> 
> ...prison rape is another issue.  if we knowingly endorse and laugh about 
> innocent people getting repeatedly ass-raped and often times infected with 
> HIV over the course of years, then any claims as to sympathy for a little 
> girl seems pretty much like insinsere bullshit.  it sounds more like people 
> dont really give a fuck at all, they just want to be seen standing up and 
> pumping their fist into the air in support of the good and noble cause of 
> the day - and certainly a cute 5yr old is gonna score them some brownie 
> points while some blue collar ex-con isnt very likely to.
> 
> ...imagine this, your neighbor resents your dog pooping on his lawn, so he 
> calls the feds reporting that you are growing pot plants...they come, bust 
> you for that, or perhaps find all sorts of pirated software on your 
> computer, or on burned cd's....the judge is a hard ass and you end up with 
> 2yrs in prison....where you get forcibly sodomized on  a weekly basis...and 
> then contract HIV.  youre released from prison, your health care wont cover 
> the hiv meds, your wife has to leave you, and you have all the sweet 
> memories of jailhouse rape in your mind while you wait around to die for the 
> next several years.  last i checked, our penal system wasnt supposed to 
> issue sentences of repeated rape and infection with deadly diseases.  if we 
> close our eyes to this, we are supporting it...which makes any brownie 
> points you mightve got from the little girl, pretty much vanish.
>
I have already stated that I neither support penalties for victimless 
crimes nor do I support mixing violent and nonviolent criminals in prison 
populations.
>
> drsebby.
> "Courage...and shuffle the cards".
> 
> 
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