ERiC saiid something that seems to need to have been said:
If something lies outsiide ones means of classificatioin,
then what vocabulary would be used to descriibe iit ?
or form concept-stuff to remember it?
This DOES seem to be "asking the impossible" as ErIC so
rightly points out.
Dreams seem to be remembered using the vocabulary of
"the known/conceived" of ideation, but the "territory"
here is NOT the "map" used to describe this teritory,
(herein some confusion still seems to exist.)
The "terriitory" of dreams ain't rational; even though
our waking mind-sets may want to claim soveriegnty (sp! fer sure)
over this area, my prediction is that it won't happen
in a "balanced" personality. Note that THIS claim is
made from the waking state. Not somethinig to obsess over.
>Robert Moritz <robertmoritz@earthlink.net> asks:
>> So, to rephrase the question...have you ever experienced
>> something in a dream state that falls outside of your means
>> of classification?
>I think you ask for an impossibility. If the experience
>was truly "outside of his means of
>classification",
>would that not imply that he *didn't* classify it? And if,
>in fact, it's not
>classified, then how is he
>supposed to know he had it?
>In short, while it's conceivable that he's
>had such an experience, he can not, by definition, be
aware of having had said experience.
>
>ERiC ...(cited above)
ty ... advocate for non-rational dreaming memes
(hmmm, almost seems like "memes" are excluded
from the dream-state, sinice dreams are experienced
in "solo-mode" and, to be transmitted, have to
"go through" the waking-mnd's cognitive-filters
.. would this methodology make them "fail" the
definition test of *meme* ?)
and what if the religion-game was merely a formalized
method of allowing access to the reproductive organs
of women, a "lip-service game" to ensure pair-bonded
resourcing in service of offspring, which it behooved
the men to mouth most piously while it gave the women
the *power* to dominate the upper-body strength lack
of balance while ensuring a means of control and
selection .... ?
and, as Darwin would observe, the behaviour which
was rewarded increased in frequency ....
while the meta-value reduced the "statements of rationality"
to the staus of triviality
just a nagging question that won't let go ...