Re: virus: Dreams

sodom (Sodom@ma.ultranet.com)
Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:11:35 -0400


Robert Moritz wrote:

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> But wouldn't any experience you could possibly have in the future(dream or
> otherwise) have to be new,i.e. outside your experience? I've always been
> under the impression that it's quite rare(never maybe) that the exact same
> set of circumstances occur in this universe. So wouldn't all aspects of your
> dreams be outside your range of experiences?

Lets clarify some things: The entire dream experience is NEVER like real life - it is
a dream after all. But all the pieces of the dreams come from concepts, images,
experiences I have had. My main point is that - If you dream something, then its parts
come from your experiences.

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> How do we classify experiences?

Every little bit of information that has flowed into or been conceived of in your
mind.

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> I personally have always envisioned it like a fractal basin, that being since
> we never see the same thing twice(since everything is always changing), when
> a certain set of qualities converge, we associate a damn...whadyacallit,
> isomorphism. (is that right? my server bit the dust for a good chunk of
> that discussion). So anywayz, it would be like...cylinder w/ one
> end missing,three inches tall, clear, loop along one side...falls into the
> basin of cup. make it 12 in. tall, and it falls into the basin of vase.
> but, you'll never see the same item twice(even the same item's molecular
> arrangement constantly shifts w/ time.)
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> So, to rephrase the question...have you ever experienced something in a dream
> state that falls outside of your means of classification?
>
> Robert

not yet, but I would like to. Also - just because I have not, this is not to say
that no-one has. But so far, I have not heard anything that i found that unique, or
even heard of myself.

Although - that disorder that Tim R. brought up about tasting shapes, fits nicely into
what I am talking about here. I cannot fathom the taste of "round". If I had a dream
where I was eating Chicken and thought it tasted "round" I would be very disturbed the
next day. That sort of experience would qualify - possibly because my rational meme
would kick in and that is perhaps why the thought is inconceivable for me.

Bill Roh