> -----Original Message-----
> From: sodom <Sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?
>
> >Umm - are you there? This is the same as the God argument. Other than the
> fact that jesus is never mentioned anywhere until the Bible >proclaimed him
> 75 to 150 years after he was supposed to live. There are no Roman records of
> him, or other records of him. Even his >likeness is taken from Horus, the
> Egyption god that was born to a virgin, in a cave, with three wise men
> attending.
>
> Who wrote the bible? Do you believe it was one persons work of fiction? Or
> that all the writers who mention Jesus were making
> it up?
I believe it was many people's work of fiction. I am not aware of anyone,
anywhere discussing Jesus except in the Bilbe, or very many decades or centuries
after his supposed death. Plus, the writers of the Gosphels were known and
common liars in their own time. Much was inserted into texts after they were
completed in an attempt to add Jesus to history. Neither Roman or Jewish
historuians of the time mention the figure, and he is no public records. Of
course, many people say that much of the records were destroyed over the
following centuries, but of course they were destroyed, The early Christians
destroyed all they could at the time, including most of the pertinent records.
>
>
> >Except that they were first, you have it backwards. Your beliefs are the
> copies, the false beliefs. It's not that they are names for Christ, it's
> >that the early Christians, while fighting the pagens, took all they could
> from the pagan religions to help in the conversion process.
> There are many names for God. But they all mean God.
No they do not, only in your attempt to be monothiestic - which you are not or
you would not need 3 names for the same entity. Horus was a God, so was his
enemy Set. So was Isis, Osiris, Marduk, Enki, the list goes on.
> >Most do, and you never hear about it. All of the Disease i mention are
> diseases that can be prevented in most cases. Is the book of >Mormon
> changing to meet new discoveries. Have they banned most meat? sugar and the
> million other substances that could hurt you?
> Again I have to say we just would rather not take the chance. We are
> instructed since the 1850's to avoid
>
> meat in excess.
>
> >That is a quite popular statement from those who support censorship,
> unfortunatly, what you are saying is not the truth. Most people that >are
> violent and react violently have found it in their family lives. There is
> not a direct correltaion between violence and violent television. I >cant
> say i am aware of anyone who has reacted violently because of seeing
> violence on the screen. i am aware of some children doing >copy-cat stuff,
> but usually it is of the stupid type, not the violent type.
> So you can honestly say that NOBODY is effected in any way by what they
> see on TV and in movies?
>
> You have got to be kidding...
No I can honestly say that the numbers dont support the issue of it being a
problem. I can say there are occasional idiots, but much more violent idiocy is
dealt out by religion than the television.
>
>
> Lot placed his faith in God and knew that God would not allow harm to
> come
> to
> his daughters if he gave them to the mob.
>
> >How did he know this, that is not stated. That is conjecture to protect the
> meme.
> He didn't KNOW this. He had FAITH.
He did not have faith, he offered his Daughters.
> HOwever, if he had given the
> angels
> to them he guessed that would be a disgrace to God.
> Since God created man I guess it is his option how he punishes those who
> are evil.
> > Like ordering the elimination of everyone in two cities, also dont forget
> the Canaanites. Basically you see this genocidal God of yours as >a kind and
> loving individual?
> We don't question God's motives.
The lord works in mysterious ways, huh? Thats what people who dont buckle
their child into a saftey seat say, and people who put their homes on flood
planes. It's lunacy, plain and simple. You should question your god, if I
worshipped a god that was responsible for the things your god has done, I would
very much change to whatever the opposite side was.
Sodom