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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sodom <Sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?
>
>
> >Umm - are you there? This is the same as the God argument. Other than the
> fact that jesus is never mentioned anywhere until the Bible >proclaimed him
> 75 to 150 years after he was supposed to live. There are no Roman records of
> him, or other records of him. Even his >likeness is taken from Horus, the
> Egyption god that was born to a virgin, in a cave, with three wise men
> attending.
>
>
> Who wrote the bible? Do you believe it was one persons work of fiction? Or
> that all the writers who mention Jesus were making
> it up?
>
> >Except that they were first, you have it backwards. Your beliefs are the
> copies, the false beliefs. It's not that they are names for Christ, it's
> >that the early Christians, while fighting the pagens, took all they could
> from the pagan religions to help in the conversion process.
> There are many names for God. But they all mean God.
> >Most do, and you never hear about it. All of the Disease i mention are
> diseases that can be prevented in most cases. Is the book of >Mormon
> changing to meet new discoveries. Have they banned most meat? sugar and the
> million other substances that could hurt you?
> Again I have to say we just would rather not take the chance. We are
> instructed since the 1850's to avoid
>
> meat in excess.
>
>
>
> >That is a quite popular statement from those who support censorship,
> unfortunatly, what you are saying is not the truth. Most people that >are
> violent and react violently have found it in their family lives. There is
> not a direct correltaion between violence and violent television. I >cant
> say i am aware of anyone who has reacted violently because of seeing
> violence on the screen. i am aware of some children doing >copy-cat stuff,
> but usually it is of the stupid type, not the violent type.
> So you can honestly say that NOBODY is effected in any way by what they
> see on TV and in movies?
>
> You have got to be kidding...
>
> Lot placed his faith in God and knew that God would not allow harm to
> come
> to
> his daughters if he gave them to the mob.
>
> >How did he know this, that is not stated. That is conjecture to protect the
> meme.
> He didn't KNOW this. He had FAITH.
> HOwever, if he had given the
> angels
> to them he guessed that would be a disgrace to God.
> Since God created man I guess it is his option how he punishes those who
> are evil.
> > Like ordering the elimination of everyone in two cities, also dont forget
> the Canaanites. Basically you see this genocidal God of yours as >a kind and
> loving individual?
> We don't question God's motives.
>
>But that is exactly what you MUST do; otherwise, you might be
>obeying Satan, masquerading as an "angel of light", unawares. Or
>perhaps the goodness of Yahweh Himself is in question. A God who
>could create billions of people, most of whom were foreordained to
>burn in Hell infinitely for finite crimes and unable to change this
>judgment, not tell them who was damned and who was saved, and strip
>them of their sole possible comfort, their memory of Him, sounds
>like the ultimate SadoGod to me. Hell would be His presence; send
>me to Heaven with the goats!