Re: virus: Hail Virus!

sodom (Sodom@ma.ultranet.com)
Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:10:52 -0400


Well, Ill help you fight it then. Racism is a touchy subject, but the
differences exist and I think people on this list are much more interested in
objective reality than political correctness. There is no doubt in my mind that
our genetic soup has combinations for all sorts, and thtat there are probably
certain geographical areas in which preferable DNA is more prevalent. It seems
to me though that there are a few issues that need to be resolved first:

1> We have a long way to go before we have the genome mapped, a couple years at
least.
2> We still dont have a real good idea about what genes are related to
intelligence (although there was a recent genetic finding that aids
considerably)
3> The historical record of technical acheivement would put a high percentage of
ground braking science firmly in the caucasions court, and mostly in the United
States. I don't suspect that genes had a lot to do with it, so perhaps the
capitalistic and/or freedom meme that has been running rampant in the USA for so
long, has overpowered better equiped minds elsewhere in the world.

Sodom
Bill Roh

Ronan the Great wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eva-Lise Carlstrom <eva-lise@efn.org>
> To: Virus <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: 12 czerwca 1998 19:13
> Subject: Re: virus: Hail Virus!
>
> >It sounds to me as if you are assuming that which is to be proven: that
> >there are overall genetic differences in certain cognitive abilities
> >between the populations of different areas of the world. I have not seen
> >any compelling evidence that this is the case.
>
> In fact I have seen a lot of them, even explicite. Eg. As I wrote somewhere
> else, they were prove during WAIS-R normalization procedure.
>
> >Have you read Steven Jay Gould's book _The Mismeasure of Man_? I do not
> >know whether it is available in Polish (I didn't find a Polish version
> >with a search of Amazon.com's site), but I highly recommend it if you
> >haven't read it.
>
> There is no Polish edition. Yes I read his book and I don't want to argue
> about it. This book is considered populistic [?], leftistic [?], and
> 'pollitically correct' to the excess. I don't find it even rational, and I
> am aware of several publications bringing Gould's thesis down[?]. Authors
> statements look like creationism opposition to evolutionionisn, which means
> they are only negative and critical.
>
> One more thing, I am NOT polliticaly correct, and I don't want to be also. I
> don't care if some considers some experimental data rascist. I am not a
> rascist.
> It seems to me pretty obvious that the idea of heritable intelligence, and
> different intelligence profiles among ethnical groups aren't very popular in
> here. I don't find myself capable to fight this, even because my English
> isn't fluent enough.
>
> Anyway, thank you
> ---
> Michal Kulczycki
> University of Wroclaw, Psychology Dept.
> E-mail: ronan@dawid.uni.wroc.pl
> ICQ #: 8954988