Re: virus: Hail Virus!

JakePrime@aol.com
Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:30:56 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-15 11:29:28 EDT, you write:

>> One more thing, I am NOT polliticaly correct, and I don't want to be also.
I
don't care if some considers some experimental data rascist. I am not a
rascist. <<

This is a little strange. If you are NOT politically correct, why would it
concern you whether others thought you were racist or not?

If by saying, "I am not a racist" you really mean that you aren't a bad
person, or you are not a white supremacist, or you do not believe in genocide,
or you do not believe in racial segregation, or you think that inter-racial
marriage and children is fine, or you do not believe in racial cleansing
(either through genocide or relocation), then so be it.

I accept your statement and I make no ill judgment of you. Of course if you
are emphatically NOT politically correct, I would think that my judgment
wouldn't matter to you anyways. If you do hold these extra opinions then I
might judge you poorly, but being NOT politically correct, that shouldn't
bother you either. You can be a racist without holding any of these extra
opinions, however.

>>If someone supports rascism using para-scientific arguments in Poland, he
qualifies to psychiatrical treating.<<

Now this would be an example of opressive political correctness. To my best
understanding we do not send our political dissidents to psychiatric wards. I
highly doubt psychiatric treatment would do anything for these attitudes you
describe.

In my understanding a racist is a person who holds that there are fundamental
differences between people according to a genetic categorization called
"race." I am very skeptical, but agnostic about that point of view.

You can hold that view and not be stereotypical racist at all. For instance
you could believe that there are distinct genetic races, but that the world
would be a better place if all races interbred to create a "colorblind" one-
race society. This position would not be what many people would think of if
they heard the word "racist". Some liberals might think that was a noble
point of view, but in my opinion its racist all the same.

If "race" is to mean anything from a genetic point of view there would have to
be a meaningful degree of reproductive isolation between these proposed
"races". Otherwise I do not see how "race" would mean anything from a genetic
point of view.

Now I do think that the word "race" does denote something. In that respect I
am not "colorblind", but I think that the real things that "race" denotes are
discreet cultures. This makes some sense in this country (the US), because
until official segregation ended in the south, people that had ANY "negro"
ancestors were considered to be "negroes". Any geneticist would tell you that
is a very silly and meaningless distinction in the realm of genetics. Several
generations would easily drown out any so-called genetic distinctions.

So, while a white person with a great-grandfather who was "negro" was not
significantly different from any other white person in a genetic sense, they
were still culturally lumped with the rest of the "negroes". The only way
that could make any sense would be if "race" were really a cultural and not
genetic distinction.

>>(Well, I was pretty sure that the reason would not be discussed, but I
really didn't realize how strong is anti-genetic lobby here :-)<<

There is no room for an anti-genetic lobby among people who accept evolution
fully and completely without reservation. I think that probably describes
just about everyone that is regular to this list.

Genetic diversity is the engine of evolution. If intelligence is at all based
on genetic factors, which I am sure that at least to some extent it is, then
there would be a diversity of intelligence within humanity, and these
differences would have to be inheritable. But since I am very skeptical that
"race" is a genuine genetic category, I am likewise skeptical that there are
any significant differences in intellectual genetic endowment between the
cultural categories that "race" actually denotes.

Intellectual differences between cultures would not surprise me at all.
Different cultures clearly value, and indoctrinate different kinds of mental
behavior in their members. Some cultures place greater value on emotional
expression and zealotry, and others place greater value on serene
contemplation. Of course they will perform differently on any test designed
to examine mental behavior.

-Jake