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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also his God
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[Blunderov] Happy thought of the day; what if Iran already has some nukes
but has not yet judged the moment right to disclose this? Presumably we will
have to rely on the judgment and intelligence of our leaders in this regard.
Below is the perspicacity resume of one of them. Nothing in it leads me to
believe that this man will come to any other conclusion than that his God
has chosen him personally to use nukes. I think he may already believe that
he was born for this moment in history for to do this very thing.
I'm getting a very bad feeling in the pit of my stomach reading the news
lately. There is huge backlash building in the Islamic world. Western
financial institutions could go critical at any moment. Global
warming/dimming is looming way faster than was previously anticipated. Oil
seems to have peaked. All the bad news is so regular it's beginning to sound
like a drum.
I'm thinking of starting a survival stash.
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_20801.shtml
What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also his
God
By Lee Salisbury
Jan 24, 2006, 17:51
A recent Zogby poll found that 52 % of Americans believe President Bush
should be impeached if he violated the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
(FISA) using warrant-less wiretaps. Of those surveyed in this poll, 25%
identified themselves as "very conservative." A Republican Congress is
unlikely to consider an impeachment trial. Nevertheless, a significant
number of Americans seriously consider impeachment appropriate. But, what
is really on trial?
Let us consider the values of George Bush.
Bush lied to America and to Congress to justify the Iraq war. Colin Powell
regretfully admits he was duped into false misrepresentations about Iraq's
WMDs to the UN. Bush's invasion of Iraq violated international law. The
numbers of dead, maimed, and wounded are in the tens of thousands. An
estimated $1 trillion will ultimately be poured into Iraq, 80% of whose
citizens want America's military to leave now.
Bush ignored the known deteriorated condition of the New Orleans' levees
long before Katrina struck. Bush cut funding for levee construction,
watched New Orleans drown, and then trusted his incompetent crony Brownie
("you're do'en a heck of a job") to manage the chaos.
Bush's No Child Left Behind program has overburdened our national
educational system and nearly gutted state budgets.
Bush's Leave No Millionaire Behind tax policy has taken a national surplus
and turned it into a humungous debt for our grandchildren to repay.
Bush's Medicare/Medicaid drug plan has plunged the nation's vulnerable and
pharmacies into total chaos while driving the states closer to bankruptcy.
Bush's "War on Terror" has become a war on civil rights and liberties,
threatening to strip the US of its democratic values. All the while,
terrorism has increased exponentially. America is no safer today then
before 9/11/01.
Bush's "Homeland Security" agency's under-funding and mismanagement makes us
more vulnerable to terrorist attacks on nuclear plants, chemical facilities,
shipping ports and airports.
Bush's Patriot Acts I & II have shredded our Bill of Rights, taking America
ever closer to a dictatorship.
Bush's use of torture casts America in the role of a sadistic tyrant making
us like the terrorists we abhor, and violates the "cruel and unusual
punishment" forbidden by our Constitution.
Bush's spying on Americans has turned a nation founded on reverence for
privacy, free speech and due process into a contemptuous Orwellian snoop.
Bush fails to confront global warming lest corporate polluter profits
suffer. Bush will allow an estimated 17,000 outdated power stations and
factories to increase their carbon emissions with impunity. The resulting
fine-particle soot contributes to asthma, emphysema, and lung cancer.
Bush implements unproven, arbitrary Christian fundamentalist doctrines,
impairing the wall of church state separation, solely to accommodate the
religious right's "rant n rave" fanaticism.
Bush is unfazed by his Republican "culture of corruption." The fraud,
corruption and official malfeasance exposed at Enron inundates K Street's
Republican lobbyists.
Space prohibits the seemingly endless list of irresponsible, destructive
Bush policies.
All this while, George Bush gladly represents bible-believing Christianity.
Millions of Christians led by the likes of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson
intercede for him. George Bush claims to make his decisions through prayer.
Supposedly, Christianity's omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God has an
American President representing Him, a President whose every decision should
parallel this God's alleged values of righteousness, justice, wisdom and
integrity.
So where is the righteousness, justice, wisdom and integrity in George
Bush's decisions? Read the above list again and show me where these alleged
qualities are? Is this the benefit of being "one nation under God?" Most
Christian Bush supporters would rather keep playing church then face these
realities. What is on trial in the minds of Americans is not just George
Bush, but his God and his brand of Christianity.
Nevertheless, either, Nietzsche was right when he said, "God is dead" or God
just plain doesn't give a dam! No wonder our founding fathers kept the
mention of God out of the Constitution.
C Copyright 2006 by AxisofLogic.com
Additional essays and biography of Axis Columnist, Lee Salisbury
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also his God
« Reply #1 on: 2006-02-07 16:53:19 » |
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I lately I have often entertained the idea that the Bush administration is
all about causing and allowing as much destruction as possible. The
reason? This cabal owns all the right companies and businesses to
capitalize on destruction. Who are all these private contractors in Iraq?
Perhaps someone may correct me if I am wrong, but I have recently heard
that this war has the historical distinction of employing more private
contractors (mercenaries, etc.) per legitimate soldier than any other ever.
The second largest military force in Iraq isn't the UK, but the private
neocon forces of Haliburton, KBR, and crowd. When the hurricane blew away
New Orleans because this administration refused to take the obviously
necessary steps to provide minimal protection, one of the first contractors
to line up to benefit was Haliburton. Collectively the United States is
getting humiliated, compromised, and discredited, while causing great
unwarranted harm to its own citizens as well innocents abroad, and yet this
small cabal of administration power does nothing but get richer and richer
off of war profits, destruction, and misery. When does this fast ride to
the bottom end?
> [Original Message]
> From: Blunderov <squooker@mweb.co.za>
> To: <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: 2/7/2006 1:29:21 PM
> Subject: RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just
George Bush, but also his God
>
> [Blunderov] Happy thought of the day; what if Iran already has some nukes
> but has not yet judged the moment right to disclose this? Presumably we
will
> have to rely on the judgment and intelligence of our leaders in this
regard.
>
>
> Below is the perspicacity resume of one of them. Nothing in it leads me to
> believe that this man will come to any other conclusion than that his God
> has chosen him personally to use nukes. I think he may already believe
that
> he was born for this moment in history for to do this very thing.
>
> I'm getting a very bad feeling in the pit of my stomach reading the news
> lately. There is huge backlash building in the Islamic world. Western
> financial institutions could go critical at any moment. Global
> warming/dimming is looming way faster than was previously anticipated. Oil
> seems to have peaked. All the bad news is so regular it's beginning to
sound
> like a drum.
>
> I'm thinking of starting a survival stash.
>
> http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_20801.shtml
>
> What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also
his
> God
> By Lee Salisbury
> Jan 24, 2006, 17:51
>
> A recent Zogby poll found that 52 % of Americans believe President Bush
> should be impeached if he violated the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance
Act
> (FISA) using warrant-less wiretaps. Of those surveyed in this poll, 25%
> identified themselves as "very conservative." A Republican Congress is
> unlikely to consider an impeachment trial. Nevertheless, a significant
> number of Americans seriously consider impeachment appropriate. But, what
> is really on trial?
>
> Let us consider the values of George Bush.
>
> Bush lied to America and to Congress to justify the Iraq war. Colin
Powell
> regretfully admits he was duped into false misrepresentations about Iraq's
> WMDs to the UN. Bush's invasion of Iraq violated international law. The
> numbers of dead, maimed, and wounded are in the tens of thousands. An
> estimated $1 trillion will ultimately be poured into Iraq, 80% of whose
> citizens want America's military to leave now.
>
> Bush ignored the known deteriorated condition of the New Orleans' levees
> long before Katrina struck. Bush cut funding for levee construction,
> watched New Orleans drown, and then trusted his incompetent crony Brownie
> ("you're do'en a heck of a job") to manage the chaos.
>
> Bush's No Child Left Behind program has overburdened our national
> educational system and nearly gutted state budgets.
>
> Bush's Leave No Millionaire Behind tax policy has taken a national surplus
> and turned it into a humungous debt for our grandchildren to repay.
>
> Bush's Medicare/Medicaid drug plan has plunged the nation's vulnerable and
> pharmacies into total chaos while driving the states closer to
bankruptcy.
>
> Bush's "War on Terror" has become a war on civil rights and liberties,
> threatening to strip the US of its democratic values. All the while,
> terrorism has increased exponentially. America is no safer today then
> before 9/11/01.
>
> Bush's "Homeland Security" agency's under-funding and mismanagement makes
us
> more vulnerable to terrorist attacks on nuclear plants, chemical
facilities,
> shipping ports and airports.
>
> Bush's Patriot Acts I & II have shredded our Bill of Rights, taking
America
> ever closer to a dictatorship.
>
> Bush's use of torture casts America in the role of a sadistic tyrant
making
> us like the terrorists we abhor, and violates the "cruel and unusual
> punishment" forbidden by our Constitution.
>
> Bush's spying on Americans has turned a nation founded on reverence for
> privacy, free speech and due process into a contemptuous Orwellian snoop.
>
> Bush fails to confront global warming lest corporate polluter profits
> suffer. Bush will allow an estimated 17,000 outdated power stations and
> factories to increase their carbon emissions with impunity. The resulting
> fine-particle soot contributes to asthma, emphysema, and lung cancer.
>
> Bush implements unproven, arbitrary Christian fundamentalist doctrines,
> impairing the wall of church state separation, solely to accommodate the
> religious right's "rant n rave" fanaticism.
>
> Bush is unfazed by his Republican "culture of corruption." The fraud,
> corruption and official malfeasance exposed at Enron inundates K Street's
> Republican lobbyists.
>
> Space prohibits the seemingly endless list of irresponsible, destructive
> Bush policies.
>
> All this while, George Bush gladly represents bible-believing
Christianity.
> Millions of Christians led by the likes of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson
> intercede for him. George Bush claims to make his decisions through
prayer.
> Supposedly, Christianity's omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God has an
> American President representing Him, a President whose every decision
should
> parallel this God's alleged values of righteousness, justice, wisdom and
> integrity.
>
> So where is the righteousness, justice, wisdom and integrity in George
> Bush's decisions? Read the above list again and show me where these
alleged
> qualities are? Is this the benefit of being "one nation under God?" Most
> Christian Bush supporters would rather keep playing church then face these
> realities. What is on trial in the minds of Americans is not just George
> Bush, but his God and his brand of Christianity.
>
> Nevertheless, either, Nietzsche was right when he said, "God is dead" or
God
> just plain doesn't give a dam! No wonder our founding fathers kept the
> mention of God out of the Constitution.
>
> C Copyright 2006 by AxisofLogic.com
>
> Additional essays and biography of Axis Columnist, Lee Salisbury
>
>
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but al
« Reply #2 on: 2006-02-07 17:10:02 » |
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Quote from: Blunderov on 2006-02-07 14:01:41
[Blunderov] Happy thought of the day; what if Iran already has some nukes
but has not yet judged the moment right to disclose this? Presumably we will
have to rely on the judgment and intelligence of our leaders in this regard.
Below is the perspicacity resume of one of them. Nothing in it leads me to
believe that this man will come to any other conclusion than that his God
has chosen him personally to use nukes. I think he may already believe that
he was born for this moment in history for to do this very thing. |
I thought you were talking about Iran's loopy president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. I was genuinely stunned when I saw this was juts another anti-Bush propaganda piece (every point in that article cab, and has, been debunked).
How can you be so obsessed with Bush and a spent force like Christianity that you appear to completely fail to take account of the rising threat of Islam and its genocide-intent leaders?
What is your take on the cartoon controversy?
Are you not worries about the horrific backlash brewing against Islam thanks to the relentless bad PR generated from suicide bombings, violent protests, 9/11, 7/7 and ceaseless oaths to Allah promising to massacred the Jews and butcher the rest of we infidels?
Kind regards
JD
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but
also his God
« Reply #3 on: 2006-02-07 18:34:29 » |
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...it appears to me that the USA at large is undergoing a
"third-worldization" process...whereby things like honesty, good intentions,
the golden rule, and fair play move from the "sometimes" category...through
the "unusual"...to "rare" ...to "the exception"...to the "very rare"...to
the final category, "so bizarre that no one would believe it if it were true
anyways."
...fraud is becoming much more than a cottage industry at this point...at
this point very few things are "as advertised". at the end of the road is
the place where Nigeria currently resides - a world where theft, dishonesty
and highway robbery is the norm. With the government setting the pace, and
people being rewarded for clever ruses, it's hard to imagine things getting
much better any time soon.
DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Jake S" <every1hz@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George
Bush, but also his God
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 15:53:19 -0600
I lately I have often entertained the idea that the Bush administration is
all about causing and allowing as much destruction as possible. The
reason? This cabal owns all the right companies and businesses to
capitalize on destruction. Who are all these private contractors in Iraq?
Perhaps someone may correct me if I am wrong, but I have recently heard
that this war has the historical distinction of employing more private
contractors (mercenaries, etc.) per legitimate soldier than any other ever.
The second largest military force in Iraq isn't the UK, but the private
neocon forces of Haliburton, KBR, and crowd. When the hurricane blew away
New Orleans because this administration refused to take the obviously
necessary steps to provide minimal protection, one of the first contractors
to line up to benefit was Haliburton. Collectively the United States is
getting humiliated, compromised, and discredited, while causing great
unwarranted harm to its own citizens as well innocents abroad, and yet this
small cabal of administration power does nothing but get richer and richer
off of war profits, destruction, and misery. When does this fast ride to
the bottom end?
> [Original Message]
> From: Blunderov <squooker@mweb.co.za>
> To: <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: 2/7/2006 1:29:21 PM
> Subject: RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just
George Bush, but also his God
>
> [Blunderov] Happy thought of the day; what if Iran already has some nukes
> but has not yet judged the moment right to disclose this? Presumably we
will
> have to rely on the judgment and intelligence of our leaders in this
regard.
>
>
> Below is the perspicacity resume of one of them. Nothing in it leads me
to
> believe that this man will come to any other conclusion than that his God
> has chosen him personally to use nukes. I think he may already believe
that
> he was born for this moment in history for to do this very thing.
>
> I'm getting a very bad feeling in the pit of my stomach reading the news
> lately. There is huge backlash building in the Islamic world. Western
> financial institutions could go critical at any moment. Global
> warming/dimming is looming way faster than was previously anticipated.
Oil
> seems to have peaked. All the bad news is so regular it's beginning to
sound
> like a drum.
>
> I'm thinking of starting a survival stash.
>
> http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_20801.shtml
>
> What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also
his
> God
> By Lee Salisbury
> Jan 24, 2006, 17:51
>
> A recent Zogby poll found that 52 % of Americans believe President Bush
> should be impeached if he violated the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance
Act
> (FISA) using warrant-less wiretaps. Of those surveyed in this poll, 25%
> identified themselves as "very conservative." A Republican Congress is
> unlikely to consider an impeachment trial. Nevertheless, a significant
> number of Americans seriously consider impeachment appropriate. But,
what
> is really on trial?
>
> Let us consider the values of George Bush.
>
> Bush lied to America and to Congress to justify the Iraq war. Colin
Powell
> regretfully admits he was duped into false misrepresentations about
Iraq's
> WMDs to the UN. Bush's invasion of Iraq violated international law. The
> numbers of dead, maimed, and wounded are in the tens of thousands. An
> estimated $1 trillion will ultimately be poured into Iraq, 80% of whose
> citizens want America's military to leave now.
>
> Bush ignored the known deteriorated condition of the New Orleans' levees
> long before Katrina struck. Bush cut funding for levee construction,
> watched New Orleans drown, and then trusted his incompetent crony Brownie
> ("you're do'en a heck of a job") to manage the chaos.
>
> Bush's No Child Left Behind program has overburdened our national
> educational system and nearly gutted state budgets.
>
> Bush's Leave No Millionaire Behind tax policy has taken a national
surplus
> and turned it into a humungous debt for our grandchildren to repay.
>
> Bush's Medicare/Medicaid drug plan has plunged the nation's vulnerable
and
> pharmacies into total chaos while driving the states closer to
bankruptcy.
>
> Bush's "War on Terror" has become a war on civil rights and liberties,
> threatening to strip the US of its democratic values. All the while,
> terrorism has increased exponentially. America is no safer today then
> before 9/11/01.
>
> Bush's "Homeland Security" agency's under-funding and mismanagement makes
us
> more vulnerable to terrorist attacks on nuclear plants, chemical
facilities,
> shipping ports and airports.
>
> Bush's Patriot Acts I & II have shredded our Bill of Rights, taking
America
> ever closer to a dictatorship.
>
> Bush's use of torture casts America in the role of a sadistic tyrant
making
> us like the terrorists we abhor, and violates the "cruel and unusual
> punishment" forbidden by our Constitution.
>
> Bush's spying on Americans has turned a nation founded on reverence for
> privacy, free speech and due process into a contemptuous Orwellian snoop.
>
> Bush fails to confront global warming lest corporate polluter profits
> suffer. Bush will allow an estimated 17,000 outdated power stations and
> factories to increase their carbon emissions with impunity. The
resulting
> fine-particle soot contributes to asthma, emphysema, and lung cancer.
>
> Bush implements unproven, arbitrary Christian fundamentalist doctrines,
> impairing the wall of church state separation, solely to accommodate the
> religious right's "rant n rave" fanaticism.
>
> Bush is unfazed by his Republican "culture of corruption." The fraud,
> corruption and official malfeasance exposed at Enron inundates K Street's
> Republican lobbyists.
>
> Space prohibits the seemingly endless list of irresponsible, destructive
> Bush policies.
>
> All this while, George Bush gladly represents bible-believing
Christianity.
> Millions of Christians led by the likes of Jerry Falwell and Pat
Robertson
> intercede for him. George Bush claims to make his decisions through
prayer.
> Supposedly, Christianity's omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God has an
> American President representing Him, a President whose every decision
should
> parallel this God's alleged values of righteousness, justice, wisdom and
> integrity.
>
> So where is the righteousness, justice, wisdom and integrity in George
> Bush's decisions? Read the above list again and show me where these
alleged
> qualities are? Is this the benefit of being "one nation under God?"
Most
> Christian Bush supporters would rather keep playing church then face
these
> realities. What is on trial in the minds of Americans is not just George
> Bush, but his God and his brand of Christianity.
>
> Nevertheless, either, Nietzsche was right when he said, "God is dead" or
God
> just plain doesn't give a dam! No wonder our founding fathers kept the
> mention of God out of the Constitution.
>
> C Copyright 2006 by AxisofLogic.com
>
> Additional essays and biography of Axis Columnist, Lee Salisbury
>
>
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just
George Bush, but also his God
« Reply #4 on: 2006-02-07 21:57:03 » |
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At 03:53 PM 2/7/2006 -0600, "Jake S" <every1hz@earthlink.net> wrote:
snip
>Collectively the United States is
>getting humiliated, compromised, and discredited, while causing great
>unwarranted harm to its own citizens as well innocents abroad, and yet this
>small cabal of administration power does nothing but get richer and richer
>off of war profits, destruction, and misery. When does this fast ride to
>the bottom end?
History doesn't really repeat, but the last time it ended in a bunker with
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also his God
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com
> [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of Dr Sebby
> Sent: 08 February 2006 00:34
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is
> not just George Bush, but also his God
>
> ...it appears to me that the USA at large is undergoing a
> "third-worldization" process...
Yep, mass immigration...from the 3rd world.
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but
also his God
« Reply #6 on: 2006-02-08 06:00:02 » |
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...i sort of wouldve liked to say that. according to the 2002 world
almanac...after taking into consideration birth rate vs. infant mortality
rate plus immigration, the USA has a 6.5% annual increase...whereas the
most notorious outbreeding countries are nothing above 3.9 % (due to infant
mortality). most countries fall between 1.8% and 3.5%...assuming their
census details arent horrifically innacurate, we are easily twice that of
nearly all countries. and it's not the brilliant and successful that are
coming...it's the people that have sucky lives where they live.
DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Jonathan Davis" <jonathan.davis@lineone.net>
Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
To: <virus@lucifer.com>
Subject: RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George
Bush, but also his God
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:44:59 +0100
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com
> [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of Dr Sebby
> Sent: 08 February 2006 00:34
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is
> not just George Bush, but also his God
>
> ...it appears to me that the USA at large is undergoing a
> "third-worldization" process...
Yep, mass immigration...from the 3rd world.
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also his God
« Reply #7 on: 2006-02-08 09:35:02 » |
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[JD] I thought you were talking about Iran's loopy president Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad. I was genuinely stunned when I saw this was juts another
anti-Bush propaganda piece (every point in that article cab, and has, been
debunked).
[Blunderov] Both men are fundamentalist savages. Dubya, a son of the
enlightenment, should know better. With regard to the 'debunking', I have
insufficient spare time to indulge in a Flat Earth Society debate.
Apparently we do not take the same papers. I'm happy with mine.
[JD] How can you be so obsessed with Bush and a spent force like
Christianity that you appear to completely fail to take account of the
rising threat of Islam and its genocide-intent leaders?
[Blunderov]Because I am a free agent who chooses his own subjects for
conversation and who also declines to change that subject even if somebody
else would prefer me to.
[JD] What is your take on the cartoon controversy?
[Blunderov] Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
[JD] Are you not worries about the horrific backlash brewing against Islam
thanks to the relentless bad PR generated from suicide bombings, violent
protests, 9/11, 7/7 and ceaseless oaths to Allah promising to massacred the
Jews and butcher the rest of we infidels?
[Blunderov] It would seem that we don't take the same papers. I'm happy with
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also his God
« Reply #8 on: 2006-02-08 10:16:02 » |
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> Sent: 08 February 2006 15:35
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is
> not just George Bush, but also his God
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> [Blunderov] It would seem that we don't take the same papers.
> I'm happy with mine.
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also his God
« Reply #9 on: 2006-02-08 10:40:12 » |
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com
> [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of Blunderov
> Sent: 08 February 2006 15:35
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is
> not just George Bush, but also his God
>
> [JD] I thought you were talking about Iran's loopy president
> Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. I was genuinely stunned when I saw this
> was juts another anti-Bush propaganda piece (every point in
> that article cab, and has, been debunked).
>
> [Blunderov] Both men are fundamentalist savages.
Ahmadinejad has promised genocide, kidnapped diplomats and is an avowed
religious fanatic.
How can you seriously compare Bush with this guy?
>Dubya, a son
> of the enlightenment, should know better.
That old classic: You are more guilty because you ought to know better. It
is the one used against Israel.
Because you are a democracy with educated citizens and rule of law you are
MORE guilty than the murderous rabble you fighting because you ought to know
better.
I suggest that your hatred of Bush and the US right is clouding your
judgement about Islamists who are in my opinion a vastly greater threat to
secular liberalism than Christianity could ever be.
>With regard to the
> 'debunking', I have insufficient spare time to indulge in a
> Flat Earth Society debate.
Fire and forget huh?
> Apparently we do not take the same papers. I'm happy with mine.
I take feeds, Brother B, since 'tis the 21st century :-)
> [JD] How can you be so obsessed with Bush and a spent force
> like Christianity that you appear to completely fail to take
> account of the rising threat of Islam and its genocide-intent leaders?
>
> [Blunderov]Because I am a free agent
Not if Islamic Radicals get their way, kuffar.
>who chooses his own
> subjects for conversation and who also declines to change
> that subject even if somebody else would prefer me to.
I suppose that does answer the question. But to obsess over the number 2
threat and ignore the number 1 threat just because you want to be consistent
makes you one of the most easily manipulated men on Earth! :-)
> [JD] What is your take on the cartoon controversy?
>
> [Blunderov] Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
Your freedom or though, speech and non-worship are all "jokes" to those
people.
> [JD] Are you not worries about the horrific backlash brewing
> against Islam thanks to the relentless bad PR generated from
> suicide bombings, violent protests, 9/11, 7/7 and ceaseless
> oaths to Allah promising to massacred the Jews and butcher
> the rest of we infidels?
>
> [Blunderov] It would seem that we don't take the same papers.
> I'm happy with mine.
You are happy with your echo chamber :-)
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also his God
« Reply #10 on: 2006-02-08 15:49:45 » |
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[Blunderov] I decline to be stung by your puerile taunts. My new-found
resolve not to consort with torturers of either persons or semantics is
paying enormous dividends for my peace of mind and I intend to keep it that
way. Accordingly I decline to be drawn into a pointless game of Neocon
blackwhite with you. Go and toy with somebody else.
-----Original Message-----
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Jonathan Davis
Sent: 08 February 2006 17:16
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George
Bush, but also his God
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com
> [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of Blunderov
> Sent: 08 February 2006 15:35
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is
> not just George Bush, but also his God
>
> [Blunderov] It would seem that we don't take the same papers.
> I'm happy with mine.
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also his God
« Reply #11 on: 2006-02-09 04:49:22 » |
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com
> [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of Blunderov
> Sent: 08 February 2006 21:50
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is
> not just George Bush, but also his God
>
> [Blunderov] I decline to be stung by your puerile taunts.
Puerile? That is debatable. Taunts? Yes. If taunting means to harass with
persistent criticism, expect me to taunt the authors and posters of articles
like this (assuming I have the time and inclination - see below).
>My
> new-found resolve not to consort with torturers of either
> persons or semantics is paying enormous dividends for my
> peace of mind and I intend to keep it that way.
Echo chay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-mmmmmmm-berrrrrrrrrrr :-)
Oddly enough I agree with you completely. I frequently read some of the
political dross posted on the list and reflexively start to answer, then I
am reminded that I have *much* better things to be doing. Generating
cognitive dissonance in meme bots is a distinctly unrewarding activity.
That said, since I am a godless ultra capitalist oppressor, let my
exploitations be on your head for not distracting me from my evil purpose.
>Accordingly I
> decline to be drawn into a pointless game of Neocon
> blackwhite with you. Go and toy with somebody else.
And I decline to be instructed :-)
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Re: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also his God
« Reply #12 on: 2006-02-09 18:03:23 » |
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On 08/02/06, Jonathan Davis <jonathan.davis@lineone.net> wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-virus@lucifer.com
> > [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of Blunderov
> > Sent: 08 February 2006 15:35
> > To: virus@lucifer.com
> > Subject: RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is
> > not just George Bush, but also his God
> >
> > [JD] I thought you were talking about Iran's loopy president
> > Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. I was genuinely stunned when I saw this
> > was juts another anti-Bush propaganda piece (every point in
> > that article cab, and has, been debunked).
> >
> > [Blunderov] Both men are fundamentalist savages.
>
> Ahmadinejad has promised genocide, kidnapped diplomats and is an avowed
> religious fanatic.
>
> How can you seriously compare Bush with this guy?
Ah yes, Ahmadinejad, our new Saddam, the new threat to all ("god
fearing" - optional) right thinking democracy loving, freedom thinking
peoples the world over.
How come the House of Saud never gets portrayed this way?
.... and Bush's murderous regime in Iraq
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1704737,00.html?gusrc=rss
>
>
> >Dubya, a son
> > of the enlightenment, should know better.
>
> That old classic: You are more guilty because you ought to know better. It
> is the one used against Israel.
>
> Because you are a democracy with educated citizens and rule of law you are
> MORE guilty than the murderous rabble you fighting because you ought to know
> better.
>
> I suggest that your hatred of Bush and the US right is clouding your
> judgement about Islamists who are in my opinion a vastly greater threat to
> secular liberalism than Christianity could ever be.
>
> >With regard to the
> > 'debunking', I have insufficient spare time to indulge in a
> > Flat Earth Society debate.
>
> Fire and forget huh?
>
>
> > Apparently we do not take the same papers. I'm happy with mine.
>
> I take feeds, Brother B, since 'tis the 21st century :-)
>
>
> > [JD] How can you be so obsessed with Bush and a spent force
> > like Christianity that you appear to completely fail to take
> > account of the rising threat of Islam and its genocide-intent leaders?
> >
> > [Blunderov]Because I am a free agent
>
> Not if Islamic Radicals get their way, kuffar.
>
>
> >who chooses his own
> > subjects for conversation and who also declines to change
> > that subject even if somebody else would prefer me to.
>
> I suppose that does answer the question. But to obsess over the number 2
> threat and ignore the number 1 threat just because you want to be consistent
> makes you one of the most easily manipulated men on Earth! :-)
>
>
> > [JD] What is your take on the cartoon controversy?
> >
> > [Blunderov] Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
>
> Your freedom or though, speech and non-worship are all "jokes" to those
> people.
>
>
> > [JD] Are you not worries about the horrific backlash brewing
> > against Islam thanks to the relentless bad PR generated from
> > suicide bombings, violent protests, 9/11, 7/7 and ceaseless
> > oaths to Allah promising to massacred the Jews and butcher
> > the rest of we infidels?
> >
> > [Blunderov] It would seem that we don't take the same papers.
> > I'm happy with mine.
>
> You are happy with your echo chamber :-)
>
> JD
>
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also his God
« Reply #13 on: 2006-02-10 04:59:45 » |
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com
> [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of sean
> Sent: 10 February 2006 00:03
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: Re: virus: What is on trial in the United States is
> not just George Bush, but also his God
>
> On 08/02/06, Jonathan Davis <jonathan.davis@lineone.net> wrote:
> >
> > Ahmadinejad has promised genocide, kidnapped diplomats and is an
> > avowed religious fanatic.
> >
> > How can you seriously compare Bush with this guy?
>
> Ah yes, Ahmadinejad, our new Saddam, the new threat to all
> ("god fearing" - optional) right thinking democracy loving,
> freedom thinking peoples the world over.
You sarcasm may actually be accurate.
> How come the House of Saud never gets portrayed this way?
1. They do not have a nuclear program.
2. They have not publicly called for the destruction of Israel.
3. They do not look like Egyptian taxi drivers who accidentally ended up as
president of a theocracy.
Let us keep in mind that when the contributors to the Daily Kos and
Democratic Underground (and increasingly CoV) talk about the America at risk
of becoming a police state, a theocracy, a genocide-bent world pariah - they
seem to forget that they are describing Iran as it is today.
> .... and Bush's murderous regime in Iraq
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1704737,00.html?gusrc=rss
Err...Iraq is a sovereign country with a democratically elected government.
How can the Guardian publish this biased crap from people like Sami
Ramadani?
Ramadani, like Fisk, Galloway and Tariq Ali is a well heeled old Communists
who has detested the USA his entire.
I am just extremely grateful that these morons are powerless and always will
be (unless they move to South America and help that continent's decline to
Sub-Saharan levels of economic and social prosperity).
As long as they are tied up in Trade Union meetings, Big Brother and pumping
out copy for organs of the the last vestiges of the Worker's International
(e.g. The Guardian), we Capitocrats can get on with turning Earth into a
Brave New World of Malls and automata queuing for Soma*.
JD
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RE: virus: What is on trial in the United States is not just George Bush, but also his God
« Reply #14 on: 2006-02-10 17:12:14 » |
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I don't believe in "anti-Bush" propaganda anymore. I know you don't live
here in the US, Jonathan, and I respect the fact that you don't do the
inane memebotic types of things that Joe Dees does on a regular basis. I
live right in the middle of one of the reddest states in the United States,
and as I have any reason, empathy, or vision what-so-ever, I can't see how
anybody experiencing this first hand that still has any significant
percentage of their neurons engaged in political issues can't be anti-bush.
Indeed all of the pro-Bush people I've encountered lately, although they
might otherwise be competant in other areas of their lives, have simply
turned off large portions of their intellectual life to any serious
political dialogues. Oh sure, they all act super patriotic, wave their
flags, and mouth semi-liberal (and usually hypocritical) platitudes, and
get indignant if you criticize the president too much, but these really are
the cool-aid drinkers of the world. If I believed in God, I would have to
conclude that he must love 'em cause he made so many. I still run into the
occassional thinking person who likes the "old school Republicans", and
still votes in that primary (mostly for the constantly losing moderates of
that party). I of course ridicule them openly for their nostalgia, but
even most of them aren't having much for defending POTUS anymore.
I personally view my take on Bush vs. Bin Laden as they are both really bad
guys (or hopelessly in league with really bad guys) who are dependent on
each other for their very political survival; neither would be successful
without the other. As this is a war of intelligence and perception, Bin
Laden and company clearly have the more advantageous side of the formula in
terms of being able to drive international events more or less in their
favor, while Bush and company have the more advantageous side in terms of
enriching themselves financially in very personal and more often than not
corrupt ways. Of course the big losers in this equation are the US voting
public as their credibility, influence, financial well being, and economic
well-being are undercut more precipitously each day through the actions of
these malignant parasites. We are the ones getting our asses kicked at the
end of the day, whom I keep hoping will say "enough" sooner rather than
later.
Its rather easy for someone who doesn't experience this so directly on a
daily basis to choose one side to the end, Jonathan, but as someone much
more involved than you, I can only conclude that you have made your choice
in some ignorance of this reality.
[quote author=Jonathan Davis link=board=67;threadid=34614;start=0#146356
date=1139350202]
[quote author=Blunderov link=board=67;threadid=34614;start=0#146340
date=1139338901]
[Blunderov] Happy thought of the day; what if Iran already has some nukes
but has not yet judged the moment right to disclose this? Presumably we will
have to rely on the judgment and intelligence of our leaders in this regard.
Below is the perspicacity resume of one of them. Nothing in it leads me to
believe that this man will come to any other conclusion than that his God
has chosen him personally to use nukes. I think he may already believe that
he was born for this moment in history for to do this very thing. |
I thought you were talking about Iran's loopy president Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad. I was genuinely stunned when I saw this was juts another
anti-Bush propaganda piece (every point in that article cab, and has, been
debunked).
How can you be so obsessed with Bush and a spent force like Christianity
that you appear to completely fail to take account of the rising threat of
Islam and its genocide-intent leaders?
What is your take on the cartoon controversy?
Are you not worries about the horrific backlash brewing against Islam
thanks to the relentless bad PR generated from suicide bombings, violent
protests, 9/11, 7/7 and ceaseless oaths to Allah promising to massacred the
Jews and butcher the rest of we infidels?
Kind regards
JD
PS does anyone know how to unsubscribe from the mailing list. Only a tiny
percentage of material comes through here now so I might as well switch to
forum only activity. The link at the bottom of mails does not work.
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