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virus: Consistent behavior
« on: 2003-10-20 15:22:28 » |
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By making the assignation that I am attempting to ruin the forum, you commit a primary fallacy David. You are begging the question.
By asserting "I see I am not the first to do so" you disclose information that is not in the public forum. Only owner/root can do that. And you do so with the intent to curry favor. More reason to recuse yourself from the debate.
You are behaving consistently David.
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David McFadzean <david@lucifer.com> wrote:
Kirk Steele wrote:
> More avoidant behavior. Consistent as well.
I do not find your attempt to psychoanalyze me the least bit amusing. Your
accusations are so full of misinformation and innuendo that I am forced
to give you a strongly negative rating. I see I am not the first one to
do so. If your reputation drops much more I will not hesitate to protect
this forum against your attempts to ruin it.
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Re:virus: Consistent behavior
« Reply #1 on: 2003-10-20 15:40:39 » |
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Quote:| "By asserting "I see I am not the first to do so" you disclose information that is not in the public forum. Only owner/root can do that." |
Actually, that information is in the public forum and can be accessed from the reputations board by clicking on the figure in the column marked reputation.
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Re:virus: Consistent behavior
« Reply #3 on: 2003-10-20 15:53:07 » |
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the median weighted "reputation is what is disclosed in forum, not
"a strongly negative rating. I see I am not the first one to
do so"
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Kharin <kharin@kharin.com> wrote:
"By asserting "I see I am not the first to do so" you disclose information that is not in the public forum. Only owner/root can do that."
Actually, that information is in the public forum and can be accessed from the reputations board by clicking on the figure in the column marked reputation.
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Re: virus: Consistent behavior
« Reply #4 on: 2003-10-20 15:54:53 » |
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no one can "see" "I am not the first to do so" with regard to "a strongly negative rating" other than those who can see what each individual person is voting.
Your statement reveals that.
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David McFadzean <david@lucifer.com> wrote:
Kirk Steele wrote:
> By asserting "I see I am not the first to do so" you disclose
> information that is not in the public forum. Only owner/root can do
> that. And you do so with the intent to curry favor. More reason to
> recuse yourself from the debate.
Wrong again, Kirk.
Check out http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=;action=repProfile;userID=1162
10 Virians have given you a rating below 4.
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Re: virus: Consistent behavior
« Reply #5 on: 2003-10-20 16:16:29 » |
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Kirk Steele wrote:
> no one can "see" "I am not the first to do so" with regard to "a
> strongly negative rating" other than those who can see what each
> individual person is voting.
Fine, I will spell it out for you.
4 members gave you a rating of 2 "Little or no redeeming value"
6 members gave you a rating of 3 "Strongly negative opinion"
I know I am one of the 6 who gave you a rating of 3, therefore
5 others gave you a strongly negative rating and 4 others gave
you a worse rating.
I have no idea who those members are, though I do have the ability to find out.
Take this time to consider the possibility that you are equally misinformed
about your other accusations. You may save yourself further embarrasment.
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Re:virus: Consistent behavior
« Reply #6 on: 2003-10-20 16:31:14 » |
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I give him a 2 too, but I will not join the reputation system.
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Re:virus: Consistent behavior
« Reply #7 on: 2003-10-20 16:41:51 » |
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Ok, the ratings do mean something, but not much more than a clue on how the community perceives your arguments and your whole attitude. We are supposed to be all for rationality. Let's assume that you have a valid point which for some reason hasn't got through.
So, what do you want? What should have been done and what should be done?
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Re:virus: Consistent behavior
« Reply #8 on: 2003-10-20 16:44:35 » |
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No courage of your conviction. Sad. but consistent.
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Re:virus: Consistent behavior
« Reply #9 on: 2003-10-20 17:15:06 » |
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[humor] "The force is strong with this one."
[kirk]
Examine the necessity of recusal of owner/root in plenipotentiary matters as the power of ownership invites behavior inconsistent with the necessity of full disclosure and equipotential application of protocol and subsequent actions. Material HAS been deleted from forums without open declaration. Actions HAVE been initiated with public knowledge. These behaviors are inconsistent and incompatible with the system that is being purported in Wiki.
There has been a demonstrable dearth of meta analysis of actions recently. My recent course has been an attempt to elicit said analysis. But the ego investment in persona is so fully entrenched here, that direct resolution was not a viable option. Only though incitement and drawing out of the patterns of behavior in the public forum for all to witness can a thorough examination of the social roles in CoV be initiated. Only from this can a discussion of the inequities of inconsistent application of the expectations and realistic application of social role assignment be carried out.
David has repeatedly behaved in a manner consistent with the “my sandbox” model. Others have consistently followed his lead. I have consistently incited and invited examination of this.
Again, the force of analysis through direct illumination is insufficient to moderate self analysis. Only through the use of incitement and a degree of analytical separation can the process of self examination begin.
[humor]
Question: How many psychologists does it take to change a light bulb?
Answer: None. It has to want to change.
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rhinoceros <rhinoceros@freemail.gr> wrote:
Ok, the ratings do mean something, but not much more than a clue on how the community perceives your arguments and your whole attitude. We are supposed to be all for rationality. Let's assume that you have a valid point which for some reason hasn't got through.
So, what do you want? What should have been done and what should be done?
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Re:virus: Consistent behavior
« Reply #10 on: 2003-10-20 17:20:52 » |
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CORRECTION: Actions HAVE been initiated withOUT public knowledge.
Kirk Steele <ksteele42@yahoo.com> wrote: Actions HAVE been initiated with public knowledge. These behaviors are inconsistent and incompatible with the system that is being purported in Wiki.
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Re: Re:virus: Consistent behavior
« Reply #11 on: 2003-10-20 17:47:23 » |
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Kirk Steele wrote:
> Examine the necessity of recusal of owner/root in plenipotentiary
> matters as the power of ownership invites behavior inconsistent with
> the necessity of full disclosure and equipotential application of
> protocol and subsequent actions.
Is this supposed to mean something?
> Material HAS been deleted from
> forums without open declaration.
Some material has been moved to the Pit, often at Hermit's request.
What has been deleted?
> Actions HAVE been initiated with
> public knowledge. These behaviors are inconsistent and incompatible
> with the system that is being purported in Wiki.
Can you be more specific about which actions were inconsistent with
which parts of the system? I know of no inconsistencies but perhaps
you have knowledge to the contrary. Please disclose with references.
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RE: virus: Consistent behavior
« Reply #12 on: 2003-10-20 17:52:15 » |
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf
Of Kirk Steele
Sent: 20 October 2003 2315
Examine the necessity of recusal of owner/root in plenipotentiary
matters as the power of ownership invites behavior inconsistent with the
necessity of full disclosure
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf
Of Kirk Steele
Sent: 20 October 2003 2122
> More avoidant behavior.
[Blunderov]
You seem at one turn to suggest that David recuse himself and at the
next to berate him for avoidant behaviour?
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