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« Reply #1 on: 2003-10-14 16:29:14 »
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« Reply #2 on: 2003-10-14 17:00:37 »
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I agree, however perhaps it should be emphasised more in the forums.
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« Reply #3 on: 2003-10-14 19:45:54 »
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Silly.
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« Reply #4 on: 2003-10-15 05:38:48 »
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Howdy Rhino,

[rhinoceros] Apparently, this Rob Pongi guy was shocked by this poorly done,
angsty and vocal video clip which "they found [...] at the peak of a fearful
relationship between North Korea and America", made by "North Koreans [...]
in South Korea [...] and boadcast in a TV news show"

But what about you Jonathan? Don't you have this kind of guys in the big
city? We have lots of them in high schools around here, and I can see lots
of similar things in the States as well, some of them with different
recipients.

[Jonathan] Guys like the makers of the video? I don't know any. I do not
know any hateful anti-American individuals IRL. My friends tend away from
bigotry. Even those who would take a day off to protest against Bush's visit
would not take their objections about US policy to the level of hating the
USA. Even the Serbs I know - people who have been attacked and bombed by US
led forces - do not show such strong contempt.

[rhinoceros] The "Fucking USA" theme, in particular, was very popular among
the young here 15-20 years ago, more so when it was forbidden. Why would you
find it *dangerously* bigoted

[Jonathan] Who said *I* found it anything but funny?

As one Metafilter poster noted, "I wonder if "The Angry American," "Where
Were You," and "This Ain't No Rag It's A Flag" sound as cheezy and ignorant
to them (and me) as "Fuck'n USA" sounds to us."?

[rhinoceros] or even worth mentioning?

[Jonathan] I found it humorous.

[rhinoceros] Did it catch up since last year when it was "found"?

[Jonathan] Don't know or care.

[rhinoceros]  Are you interested in discussing group bonding, adolescent
angst, how TV news shows choose their topics, or what?

[Jonathan] Maybe a discussion on general bitchiness is in order? ;-)

[rhinoceros] I hope you did not mean to discuss the factual content of that
video clip... you could find better defended texts for that purpose.

[Jonathan] Factual content? If you find any, you can discuss it with
interested parties here: http://www.korea-dpr.com/

For those without QuickTime, here are the words, facts and all...

We clearly remember the blood and tears we shed.
And you were the cause of our country's division.
FUCKING USA!
And we won't forget all of the horrible massacres.
You are a country of murderers.
FUCKING USA!
But if America is such a righteous country,
then why can't we say what we want to say?
Have you made us into slaves of our own precious land?
So now we are yelling
WE ARE AGAINST AMERICA.
You stole the Olympic Gold medal from us.
You are a dastardly thief.
FUCKING USA!
You have the ability to steal everything and go on a rampage.
You are a monstrous thief.
FUCKING USA!
Did you hear Bush's violent threats?
Such an audacious country!
FUCKING USA!
You threaten war in North Korea and intrude in our internal affairs.
You are a country of gangs.
FUCKING USA!
But if America is such a beautiful country,
then why can't we say what we want to say?
And we're worried about what kind of damage we could get from America.
So now we are yelling
YANKEE GO HOME!

Discussion, comments etc. http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/28922 .

That's it from me on this matter.

Kind regards

Jonathan


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Re:virus: F**cking USA
« Reply #5 on: 2003-10-15 06:17:35 »
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http://www.robpongi.com/pages/thumbsMUSIC.html

There are some interesting videos there. By the way, that "Fucking USA" video/song is purported to have been created by a South Korean.
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RE: virus: F**cking USA
« Reply #6 on: 2003-10-15 08:19:53 »
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: metahuman
> Sent: 15 October 2003 1218

> http://www.robpongi.com/pages/thumbsMUSIC.html
>
> There are some interesting videos there. By the way, that "Fucking
USA"
> video/song is purported to have been created by a South Korean.

[Blunderov]
I watched one of them:
<q>
This is a very shocking and unbelievable video of some North Korean High
School Girls marching in line to school while singing a song.
</q>
I must be missing something here. The girls sing about how if someone
attacks them, their soldiers will fight back and surely win. It is not
clear to me that this is either shocking or unbelievable - in fact the
song seems no different from most national anthems which make it clear,
either implicitly or overtly, that there is a line in the sand over
which nobody had better step. ?
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Re: virus: F**cking USA
« Reply #7 on: 2003-10-15 09:59:12 »
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[Jonathan] Who said *I* found it anything but funny?

As one Metafilter poster noted, "I wonder if "The Angry American,"
"Where
Were You," and "This Ain't No Rag It's A Flag" sound as cheezy and
ignorant
to them (and me) as "Fuck'n USA" sounds to us."?

[rhinoceros] or even worth mentioning?

[Jonathan] I found it humorous.

[rhinoceros] Did it catch up since last year when it was "found"?

[Jonathan] Don't know or care.

[rhinoceros]  Are you interested in discussing group bonding, adolescent
angst, how TV news shows choose their topics, or what?

[Jonathan] Maybe a discussion on general bitchiness is in order? ;-)


[rhinoceros 2]
A good instict for responding to an annoyed response you have there ;-)



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