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Oil and turkey guts
« on: 2003-04-18 16:29:20 »
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Could this be a solution to the energy problem? Having been a science fiction fan, I hope it does not work. How mundane... Hey, animal rights activists out there! Did you read this?


http://www.discover.com/may_03/gthere.html?article=featoil.html


Anything into Oil

Technological savvy could turn 600 million tons of turkey guts and other waste into 4 billion barrels of light Texas crude each year


Gory refuse, from a Butterball Turkey plant in Carthage, Missouri, will no longer go to waste. Each day 200 tons of turkey offal will be carted to the first industrial-scale thermal depolymerization plant, recently completed in an adjacent lot, and be transformed into various useful products, including 600 barrels of light oil. 

In an industrial park in Philadelphia sits a new machine that can change almost anything into oil.

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RE: virus: Oil and turkey guts
« Reply #1 on: 2003-04-18 17:30:42 »
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Wow, man, I was just reading that!  It's blowing my mind.  My favorite
part is this:

"If a 175-pound man fell into one end, he would come out the other end
as 38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well
as 123 pounds of sterilized water. While no one plans to put people into
a thermal depolymerization machine, an intimate human creation could
become a prime feedstock. "There is no reason why we can't turn sewage,
including human excrement, into a glorious oil," says engineer Terry
Adams, a project consultant. So the city of Philadelphia is in
discussion with Changing World Technologies to begin doing exactly that.
"

Now THAT is cool.

Similarly, I was looking at a spoof site for Sweetwater Postnatal
Abortion Clinic and saw on the FAQ
(http://www.research.umbc.edu/~melissa3/portfolio/digitalart/intarwebart
/postnatal/FAQ.htm)

Q: What are some methods used for post-natal abortions?
A: We at the Sweetwater Clinic have pioneered our own "FF" (Filial
Fertilizer) program. The beauty of this method is that after the clean,
efficient disposal, the product of conception can give back to the
community in ways that the child could never have achieved on their own,
and the mother can rest secure in the knowledge that she has made the
world a better place.

Parallel trend???
Hmmmmmm.


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« Reply #3 on: 2003-04-22 05:53:32 »
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Top post this, thanks Rhino. 


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Could this be a solution to the energy problem? Having been a science
fiction fan, I hope it does not work. How mundane... Hey, animal rights
activists out there! Did you read this?


http://www.discover.com/may_03/gthere.html?article=featoil.html


Anything into Oil

Technological savvy could turn 600 million tons of turkey guts and other
waste into 4 billion barrels of light Texas crude each year


Gory refuse, from a Butterball Turkey plant in Carthage, Missouri, will no
longer go to waste. Each day 200 tons of turkey offal will be carted to the
first industrial-scale thermal depolymerization plant, recently completed in
an adjacent lot, and be transformed into various useful products, including
600 barrels of light oil. 

In an industrial park in Philadelphia sits a new machine that can change
almost anything into oil.

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RE: virus: Oil and turkey guts
« Reply #5 on: 2003-04-22 17:04:55 »
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It looked in the article as if the gas produced by the reaction would be
used onsite to power the machine, and the oil and other products from
the reactions would be shipped around for profit.  Article said gas is
expensive to ship, so it would be used on-site. 

It wouldn't "solve" the energy crisis, but it would limit the need to
find new petrochemicals, because we would continually reuse them. 


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« Reply #6 on: 2003-04-22 17:17:02 »
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Don't forget this line of the story Ouri:

"Thermal depolymerization, Appel says, has proved to be 85 percent
energy efficient for complex feedstocks, such as turkey offal: "That
means for every 100 Btus in the feedstock, we use only 15 Btus to run
the process." He contends the efficiency is even better for relatively
dry raw materials, such as plastics."

No device is 100% efficient, but I call 85% pretty good and an answer to
many of the energy problems we face. After all, if only 15% of the
turkey is needed for energy to run the machine, that leaves a lot of
energy to spare. It is certainly better than tossing all that stuff
(PVC, turkey ofal, dead bodies, plastic etc...), wouldn't you agree?

Bill

Ouri M wrote:

> This device couldn't solve the energy problem - you need energy to
> obtain the oil. What it could do (if it really works) is allow you to
> use electricity to obtain gas. The question then is, where do you get
> the electricity from? (nuclear power, wind, solar power, dams, coal...)
> Also, oil has uses in petrochemistry. We need it to make all those
> plastics.
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