From: Jei (jei@cc.hut.fi)
Date: Fri Jan 23 2004 - 11:49:55 MST
This brings to mind an idea...
Have any of you guys ever tried how long you can stand
being alone and not communicating with anyone at all?
You can really experience the power that memes have when
they want or need to get out. - There's also some kind of
"biological" builtin need to have company and communicate with
people. - Otherwise you will begin to substitute them with
plants and whatnot. - This is also why solitary confinement
is so destructive to people's psyche. (As a side-fact they're
soon releasing that Israeli guy who spilled the secrets on
Israeli's nuke labs, who has been held in really crude solitary
confinement for 20 years now?)
Anyways, I don't see why anyone would prefer being dominated
to being the dominator in a relationship. - In western societies
women are wanted. - They are free and get to do the choice. - Men
on the other hand are more or less forced to compete for them (unless
they're in the top 5% hunks or so.) -> Hence they can be dominated or
dumped in western societies. - In less civilized places women really
need the men, hence they take care of them.
Only when women begin to feel insecure in their chances of securing
a man, will they submit to being dominated in western societies.
I can see many advantages in non-american women. - Although it
may be a matter of pride for some to dominate an american woman,
- however real that domination then actually is, is another matter.
Speaking in crude generalities, of course, and naturally assuming
that we all wish to rule our world.
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Michelle Anderson wrote:
> [Eric] There's a memetic advantage to having an empowered woman:
>
> Empowered kids.
>
> [Michelle] That's right, and also I know several American men who have
> no respect for other American men who look to "foreign" women
> exclusively: they feel they must be too weak to handle an empowered
> woman. It's the "easy route". I know that my own social bias is that
> if I see an American man with, say, an Asian woman, I assume that he
> must be a loser who can't take care of himself, given the often-correct
> reputation that Asian women are more submissive and coddling. I
> personally would never waste my considerable gifts on a man who couldn't
> stand up and hold his own. And I've been happily living for the past
> five years with an American man who would sooner die alone than be
> perceived (and perceive himself) as one who could only couple with a
> weak-willed coddler.
>
> It's also interesting to note that many black Americans complain of
> black men seeking white women for the same reason - that they/we demand
> less and aren't as vocal or sassy as black women.
>
> Then again, we all know that women in other cultures must be just as
> strong to handle the social treatment inherent in their part of the
> world. I think the issue is sneakyness (tongue in cheek on that term -
> perhaps subtlety is more diplomatic). A woman who's used to being
> second-guessed and criticized will simply assert her will in subliminal
> ways. Y'all men have no idea how much influence your partner can have
> over you without your noticing. That's in addition to the stuff you DO
> notice. Mwoohaahahahahahaaaa.
>
> :)
> Michelle
>
>
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