From: Jonathan Davis (jonathan.davis@lineone.net)
Date: Sun Sep 28 2003 - 18:13:20 MDT
"The CoV is a forum where we have recently instituted such rules. You are
verging on the point where I will call for sanctions against you."
I challenge you to do so.
You can huff and puff Hermit, but ultimately you are near powerless to do
anything about my habit of taking you on directly in this forum.
If you are going argue with me, it will have to be the hard way: slugging it
out like this, 7 long hours at a time. The congregation will not rescue you
via unfair and unjust sanctions. You ought to be ashamed of yourself even
threatening such a thing. Implied threats do not work on those who are
immune to bullies. Put up or shut up, as they say.
Your point of order below is misplaced. I know what an ad hominem is and
clearly you can still copy and paste.
As for the rest of your post, I do not intend to waste 7 hours of my time
pointing out your insults, personal attacks and ad hominems.
Your last post was a 10,000 word whopper, nearly a novella! The good bits
were written by me. The rest is mostly rubbish. I may see if there is
anything worth answering in the morning. But then again, I have work to go
to, so we'll see.
Looking forward to getting your best shot in the "sanction" department tough
guy :-)
Regards
Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of
Hermit
Sent: 29 September 2003 00:21
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: Re:virus: The Ideohazard 1.1
[Hermit 4] <moved from end> But you inspire me. Pity you left it so late in
the article. Had I seen it 6 hours ago, I could have saved 6 hours. grep
'Jonathan Davis' > /dev/null
[Jonathan 5] Surrender accepted.
[Hermit 6] No surrender given or implied. You received a (full response).
Something you seem incapable of doing. Your statement was not ad hominem,
but is a statement that you have deliberately projected a meaning which
could not be construed from what I said onto my words.
[Jonathan 5] <moved from end> This was written entirely in jest to mock your
style and methods. You may have detected an irreverent tone in this
response. It is the mirth that accompanies insight.
[Hermit 6] I'm not convinced that you have seen a thing. It would excuse me
from replying, only from your past behaviour, I know that you will then make
further invalid assertions about what that meant.
[Hermit 6] As a point of order, ad hominem is short for "argumentum ad
hominem", to "argue against the person." This can be through insult, through
inference, or even through false, or at least unsubstantiated accusations of
debating flaws. I can only engage in ad hominem against the person I am
debating/arguing with. I can say anything about anyone else I wish, and if
it is not true and is malicious, that might be slander, but it cannot be ad
hominem. I try to avoid ad hominem, even when the person I am arguing with
does it repeatedly, until it becomes apparant that they will not learn not
to. Then I respond in kind (if the forum provides no rules against it) or
call for sanctions if it does not. As you appear incapable of identifying
ad hominem correctly, the response to you has been made on the BBS and ad
hominem identified in color. To reiterate, please notice that ad hominem can
only occur when I talk about you.
The complete response is located at [ Hermit, "Re:virus: The Ideohazard
1.1", Reply #56, 2003-09-28 ]
(http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=54;action=display;threadid=292
59;start=45)
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