From: Hermit (virus@hermit.net)
Date: Sun Sep 28 2003 - 17:21:02 MDT
[Hermit 4] <moved from end> But you inspire me. Pity you left it so late in the article. Had I seen it 6 hours ago, I could have saved 6 hours. grep 'Jonathan Davis' > /dev/null
[Jonathan 5] Surrender accepted.
[Hermit 6] No surrender given or implied. You received a (full response). Something you seem incapable of doing. Your statement was not ad hominem, but is a statement that you have deliberately projected a meaning which could not be construed from what I said onto my words.
[Jonathan 5] <moved from end> This was written entirely in jest to mock your style and methods. You may have detected an irreverent tone in this response. It is the mirth that accompanies insight.
[Hermit 6] I'm not convinced that you have seen a thing. It would excuse me from replying, only from your past behaviour, I know that you will then make further invalid assertions about what that meant.
[Hermit 6] As a point of order, ad hominem is short for "argumentum ad hominem", to "argue against the person." This can be through insult, through inference, or even through false, or at least unsubstantiated accusations of debating flaws. I can only engage in ad hominem against the person I am debating/arguing with. I can say anything about anyone else I wish, and if it is not true and is malicious, that might be slander, but it cannot be ad hominem. I try to avoid ad hominem, even when the person I am arguing with does it repeatedly, until it becomes apparant that they will not learn not to. Then I respond in kind (if the forum provides no rules against it) or call for sanctions if it does not. The CoV is a forum where we have recently instituted such rules. You are verging on the point where I will call for sanctions against you. As you appear incapable of identifying ad hominem correctly, the response to you has been made on the BBS and ad hominem identified in color. To reiterate, please notice that ad
hominem can only occur when I talk about you.
The complete response is located at [ Hermit, "Re:virus: The Ideohazard 1.1", Reply #56, 2003-09-28 ] (http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=54;action=display;threadid=29259;start=45)
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