From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Tue Jan 29 2002 - 18:17:34 MST
On 29 Jan 2002 at 16:21, ben wrote:
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> [Joe 4]Sorry; self-conscious awareness requires sufficient complexity to allow for
> recursivity; such complexity must breach the godelian threshhold.
>
> [ben 4] Making your post the third reminder in a 24 hour period that I really must read
> "Godel, Escher, Bach"...
>
> [Joe 4] Awareness
> of itself is necessary to the monotheistic definition of a deity (I did not say
> awareness of other, for there can be no other for an omnipresent deity). Such
> necessary complexity to allow the fulfillment of a necessary condition for the
> monotheistic definition of deity is clearly absent in the rather random and
> uniform plasmic soup blown out of a Big Bang.
> [Ben 4] ah but before the Big Bang, when all that energy and matter was hypercompressed, well
> that fits the theory rather nicely doesn't it? Of course that would mean that in the process, the be-
> all end-all 'god' wouldhave been destroyed...
>
OI'll leave it up to Hermit to explain why the very idea of 'before' the genesis of a
matter/energy space/time universe is fallacious...
>
> > [Ben 3] Hmm gives whole new meaning to the idea that the soul departs the
> > body at death...
> [Joe 4] The DNA resides in the body for a long time after death before it degrades
> significantly.
> [Ben 4] That was an attempt at a bad joke on my part, referring to yourDNA-soul analogy and
> one of the more evolutionarily desperate-seeming side effects of sudden violent death in
> males...
>
You mean, of course, terminal ejaculation.
>
> -ben
>
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