From: ben (ben@machinegod.org)
Date: Tue Jan 29 2002 - 16:21:54 MST
[Joe 4] Sorry; self-conscious awareness requires sufficient complexity to allow for
recursivity; such complexity must breach the godelian threshhold.
[ben 4] Making your post the third reminder in a 24 hour period that I really must read
"Godel, Escher, Bach"...
[Joe 4] Awareness
of itself is necessary to the monotheistic definition of a deity (I did not say
awareness of other, for there can be no other for an omnipresent deity). Such
necessary complexity to allow the fulfillment of a necessary condition for the
monotheistic definition of deity is clearly absent in the rather random and
uniform plasmic soup blown out of a Big Bang.
[Ben 4] ah but before the Big Bang, when all that energy and matter was hypercompressed, well that fits the theory rather nicely doesn't it? Of course that would mean that in the process, the be-all end-all 'god' would have been destroyed...
> [Ben 3] Hmm gives whole new meaning to the idea that the soul departs the
> body at death...
[Joe 4] The DNA resides in the body for a long time after death before it degrades
significantly.
[Ben 4] That was an attempt at a bad joke on my part, referring to your DNA-soul analogy and one of the more evolutionarily desperate-seeming side effects of sudden violent death in males...
-ben
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