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Newer page: version 5 Last edited on Monday, September 8, 2003 7:16:28 pm. by DavidLucifer
Older page: version 4 Last edited on Monday, September 8, 2003 5:38:01 pm. by VectorHermit
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 |0|0|1|4|Bob believes X. 
 |0|-0.6|1|6|Bob holds X to be true. 
 |1|0|0|2|X is true. 
 |0|0|0|1|X. 
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+From my perspective VectorHermit has taken my question a long way in the wrong direction.  
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+Though the three factors that he mentions are interesting, only one needs to be addressed and that is the internal model that is held by Bob. The external truth of X is needed to evaluate just three statements:  
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+1. X  
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+2. X is true  
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+and  
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+8. Bob knows X.  
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+Saying that someone knows X implies that both Bob categorizes X as true __and__ X *is* true. In other words, given that Bob know X, you can infer that X is true and that Bob thinks X is true. And given that X is true and Bob thinks X is true, you can infer that Bob knows X is true.  
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+The external truth of X cannot be inferred by any of the other statements, as is easily seen by substituting something blatantly false like "the earth is flat" or "1+1=3" for X. I'm not sure where that leaves VectorHermit's analysis but I'm not hopeful.  
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+I also think Hermit is reading way too much into the statements, inferring process where none is implied. Only statement 17 "Bob infers X from other facts he thinks are true" mentions how he came to categorize, hold, think, or believe X is true (and I see absolutely no difference between those, not even connotative).