[Joe Dees] Considering these facts, why should I NOT consider you unduly slanted in Hermit's favor?
[Hermit] I think Lucifer's answer can stand on its own. I suggest that the fact that Joe Dees cannot accept this, points to his demented state.
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Given that:
[*]Joe Dees asserts that he and various people who were once serially elected to attempt to form a more representative body, yet failed so dismally to reach agreement on anything that we dissolved it, apparently support his vision of a pro-American CoV;
[*]assertion is cheap, but running servers expensive;
[*]I am not inclined to volunteer time or effort to a group with which I seem to have so many fundamental differences (as, I suspect, does Lucifer);
can we expect to see these champions of the zero-integrity Joe Dees' (and Casey’s [infra]) vision of the CoV finally making a contribution to running the server (http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/support.html), or do they intend merely to form an alternative list where they don’t have to suffer from the Hermit?
Perhaps Joe Dees should be discussing this with Casey? (refer http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=51;action=display;threadid=26545;start=0If you want to join an email list that has a bit of gumption, and the fortitude to address issues of national security, as well as, the principles of what USED to be the Church of Virus, then email me at cmanisca@hotmail.com.) You might be intrigued to note that several members of the CoV have been displeased by Hermit, and his minions, point of view.
As a note to all Virians, Lucifer has previously requested both financial and cognitive support (as did I) and this does not appear to have been particularly forthcoming. Certainly, nobody seems to be disagreeing with Joe Dees’ assertion that most here support him. Even after Lucifer was forced to ask, “Can someone provide me with a good reason to allow Joe Dees to continue posting to my server?” (In response to [Joe Dees] “…and they will remain there, unless David, for some inexplicably perverted and memetically mesmerized reason, cognitively travel south from your ally pocket and begins sucking your ideologically (sic) syphilitic dick, for as long as the list remains…” there was a deafening silence.
So this was seemingly an "accurate" presentient statement by Joe Dees. And Lucifer and I are apparently both "perverted and memetically mesmerized." But like all "presentience", I suggest that it depended on creating a situation where the prediction could be made to come true by the person making it.
You see, as Joe Dees knows, or once did, rationality (shared agreement of supportable perception) is always measured by joint communication. Thus Joe Dees would indeed be correct when he assets that we are irrational, should Lucifer or I remain here in the absence of support. So he jabs forcefully at these memetic buttons in the hope that Lucifer, or I, or both of us, will acknowledge his accusation by remaining, or acknowledge his presentience, by leaving.
There are perhaps a lot of incorrect assumptions being made here - and not just by Joe Dees. One is that nobody can force a volunteer to continue volunteering where the volunteer fundamentally disagrees with what his work is being put to. Another is that rational people do not force themselves upon those who do not desire their company. And most of all, as Virus was founded to provide a rational environment, and certainly not one in which confidential material is broadcast or where threats are regarded as acceptable behavior, and given that Joe Dees is able to assert that it is so regarded due to the lack of objection, Lucifer and I have now withdrawn. (Refer also "Re:I know your game, Hermit...and am countering it", Lucifer, Reply #4, 2002-09-21 (http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=26673)).
I suggest that the fact that Joe Dees apparently cannot recognize what this says about him, points to his demented state.
As for "Re:I know your game, Hermit...and am countering it", Joe Dees, Reply #5, 2002-09-21 (http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=26673) For David, the God of Virus, to leave in a huff and cede godlike and unfettered power to his designated Pope Hermit solves nothing, and in fact worsens matters. it is as usual quite delusional. You see, Lucifer and I are quite competent to diagnose your memeplex. Curing it is sometthing only you can do. When you recognise it. You have asserted that there is nothing wrong with you. I guess it is now time for others to speak up. Are you going to determine that the vast majority of the world, bar you (and possibly Rumsfeld and dubya) are insane before you are done? I suggest that the fact that Joe Dees apparently cannot recognize that the company he is keeping has affected his brain, points to his demented state.
I too will "look in, in a week or a month or a year." Then again, now that Virians have a somewhat more complete view of this affair, and know that neither Lucifer or I will be interfering, they can all join with Joe Dees and demonstrate how much less discriminatory the "new Virus" is going to be - if that is truly what they want.
"Huff" nothing. *poof*
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