On 11 Sep 2002 at 12:55, Dylan Sunter wrote:
> As many of you will have noticed, Joe has recently been sending URL's
> round instead of full C+P text. Firstly, this is much better, and im
> sure Im not the only one to agree that its much easier to deal with.
>
> However, after seeing no fewer than nine different URLS pointing to
> articles on the www.frontpagemag.com site, I decided to visit to see
> what it was all about.
>
> Granted, Im not an American, and I am therefore prob not the best
> commentator on US politics, but this seems like its politics is
> slightly right of Atilla the Hun.
>
> It is incredibly anti-communist (note the bit about the communist
> vampires...thats ace) and portrays liberals (interchangable with the
> word Democrat) as ineffective talkers who are a pariah to good moral
> american society.
>
> According to the review of one book sold on the site "The good part of
> being a Democrat is that you can commit crimes, sell out your base,
> bomb foreigners, and rape women, and the Democratic faithful will
> still think you`re the greatest"
>
> Sounds like a tabloid press review to me.
>
> If this isnt a Republican Party sponsored e-mag, then Im Pope Gregory
> XIII.
>
Many of the articles are indeed far too right-wing for me, for even
though I am a fiscal conservative and a foreign policy realist, I am also
a social liberal. That is why I culled the articles I did from the many
more available.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On
> Behalf Of joedees@bellsouth.net Sent: 11 September 2002 06:37 To:
> virus@lucifer.com Subject: Re:virus: Noam Chomsky's Citations
>
>
> On 10 Sep 2002 at 23:02, rhinoceros wrote:
>
> >
> > [rhinoceros -1]
> >
> > From MIT Tech Talk Wednesday April 15, 1992 page 3
> >
> > Chomsky is Citation Champ
> >
> > Many are the authors who may wonder is anyone is paying attention to
> > what they write. Professor Noam Chomsky, MIT's preeminent
> > linguistics authority, doesn't have that problem. Recent research on
> > citations in three different citation indices show that Professor
> > Chomsky is one of the most cited individuals in works published in
> > the past 20 years.
> >
> > In fact, his 3,874 citations in the Arts and Humanities Citation
> > Index between 1980 and 1992 make him the most cited living person in
> > that period and the eight most cited source overall -- just behind
> > famed psychiatrist Sigmund Freud and just ahead of philosopher Georg
> > Hegel.
> >
> > Indeed, Professor Chomsky is in illustrious company. The top ten
> > cited sources during the period were:
> >
> > 1. Marx
> > 2. Lenin
> > 3. Shakespeare
> > 4. Aristotle
> > 5. The Bible
> > 6. Plato
> > 7. Freud
> > 8. Chomsky
> > 9. Hegel
> > 10. Cicero.
> >
> > But that isn't all. From 1972 to 1992, Professor Chomsky was cited
> > 7,449 times in the Social Science Citation Index -- likely the
> > greatest number of times for a living person there as well, although
> > the research into those numbers isn't complete. In addition, from
> > 1974 to 1992 he was cited 1,619 times in the Science Citation Index.
> >
> > "What it means is that he is very widely read across disciplines and
> > that his work is used by researchers across disciplines," said
> > Theresa A. Tobin, the Humanities Librarian who checked the numbers.
> > "In fact," she added, "it seems that you can't write a paper without
> > citing Noam Chomsky."
> >
> >
> >
> > [Joe Dees 1]
> > 1) Ad Populam is a 2500-year-old Greek logical fallacy, so his
> > plethora of citations contribute not one whit to his credibility on
> > this issue.
> >
> > 2) Many of his citations have to do with both his more legitimate
> > (although hotly disputed and currently out of favor) academic work
> > and his other anti-american prounciamentoes.
> >
> > 3) It would be interesting to analyze his post-9/11 citations to
> > discover what percentage of them were disparaging or refutational;
> > my guess is that the percentage would be high.
> >
> >
> >
> > [rhinoceros 2]
> > Of course, the number of citations does not prove someone right.
> > This becomes obvious by taking a look at the other names mentioned.
> > It just proves that what Chomsky had to say was considered very
> > important for Arts and Humanities papers accross disciplines.
> >
> > Quote:
> > "What it means is that he is very widely read across disciplines and
> > that his work is used by researchers across disciplines," said
> > Theresa A. Tobin, the Humanities Librarian who checked the numbers.
> > "In fact," she added, "it seems that you can't write a paper without
> > citing Noam Chomsky."
> >
> And more than not, lately, in counterpoint. He has really shit in his
> white hat on this one (a US Navy term meaning a stain that cannot be
> cleaned), and as a result, his star is progressively fading among the
> real (as opposed to the trendy wannabe) cognoscentious inteligentsia.
> > > ---- > This message was posted by rhinoceros to the Virus 2002
> board on > Church of Virus BBS. >
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