On Wednesday 07 August 2002 1:55 am, you wrote:
> > Near Hemit, CA, there is a compound known as Gold Base which has a
> > heavilly armed contigent of guards. Anyone trying to leave this
> > compound is hunted down like dogs. Deep inside the compound is a
> > sniper on watch 24/7 just incase the guards miss. There are court
> > documents, which havn't been countered, stating this. Do a search, it
> > was a pretty famous case, and there's prolly a link on xenu.net
> >
> > Near Gold Base there is another compound called Happy Valley which is
> > basically a re-education center for Scientologists who have lost their
> > faith. They are prisoners. There is plenty of evidence supporting this
> > out there, including the afore mentioned court documents and
> > testimonies.
> >
> > How is that different from an Al Queda training camp? Oh yeah, they
> > have shitloads of money, they have "respected" Hollywood actors as
> > high profile members, and they put of lot of business in the direction
> > of the US "Justice" system.
> >
> > It's not who you kill, it's who you bribe.
>
> Such human rights abuses should indeed be dealt with. I myself regard
> Scientology as a dangerous and mind-controlling cult.
> > The US should think about the mirrors of the problems it condemns
> > outside its borders which exist inside its borders before taking any
> > military actions which destroys another nation. It's pure hypocracy.
>
> Last time I checked, the Scientologists weren't sheltering members of
> an organizationm that flew violently commandeered aircraft into US
> cosmopolitan skyscrapers, killing thousands. It's purely willful
> blindness to choose the small similarities you see and ignore the
> glaring differences.
There have been numerous deaths at the hands of Scientology, and they are
performed in very inhuman ways. They generally kill "traitors" quickly, they
try to break them using starvation and beatings.
Given time, the differences you are so quick to point out will seem
irrelevent if they aren't stopped.
> > > Scientology is banned in Germany as a pernicious cult, even though
> > > that is where Mohammed Atta, the alleged immediate leader of the
> > > 9/11 plotters, went to school, and recruited several of the 9/11
> > > terror flyers.
> >
> > Oh goody, a completely misinformed statement. Scientology is NOT
> > banned in Germany. The reason this myth came about was because a
> > document was leaked from inside the Sea Org which contained plans to
> > infiltrate the German government and take power.
> >
> > The German response was to add a law which means any Scientologist
> > serving in public office must make their affiliations known.
>
> Oh, kinda like wearing a yellow star?
Oh god, you are sounding like the Anti-German propoganda that is being put
out by the Scientologists.
They do not have to wear a badge saying "I'm a scientologist". They just have
to make it clear that they are during the interview. Scientology has made
very clear threats against the German government.
On one hand you are condemning a religion for being violent and supporting
government action against them, and on the other you are condemning
government action against another violent religion.
Forget US hipocracy, you should deal with your own first.
A little bit of history on the problems Scientology has faced in Germany:
First of all, they were refused tax exemption in Germany because the
government only grants exemption to non-profit organisations. There is no way
in hell CoS could claim to be non-profit, so they drew up a plan to mirror
their actions in the US to get tax exemption by infilitration (they pressured
the IRS using blackmail and placed memeber of the church in influential
position).
This plan was leaked, and every action was taken to prevent it. As a result,
Scientology began a propoganda compaign stating it was the Holocaust all over
again. The actions of the Church have been condemned by just about everyone
that matters, including the US Government, Jewish leaders, and of course, the
German government.
-- === Mark 'Nurgle' Collins http://www.thisisnurgle.org.uk Stupid IRC quote of the <variable time period>: <phoenix> insider, you'll have to excuse nurgle, he's the epitamy of evil
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Sun Sep 22 2002 - 05:06:18 MDT