On 6 Aug 2002 at 18:43, Nurgle wrote:
> 
> [quote from: Joe on 2002-08-06 at 18:37:20] 
> This fact, in their own words, counters the contention that their main
> motivation is nationalistic, geographic or sociocultural, rather than
> religious.  Of course, one has to remember that, in the Quran, all
> nations, lands and societies/cultures are subsumed under the global
> Ummah of Islam in submission to Allah.
> 
> 
> And how many US soldiers believe they are doing Gods work when they go
> to war for Bush? The Pledge of alliegence did contain "One nation,
> under God" when most of them signed up, didn't it?
>
It has contained that phrase since the McCarthy anti-godless-communist 
phase, in 1954, so I doubt if there are many active military who joined 
before then.  But if you had ever been in the military, you would know that 
the military pledge one takes to swear in and join a US military service is 
not the Pledge of Allegiance.
Having been one, which you most obviously haven't, I can honestly tell 
you - very few US citizens, outside the chaplaincy, join the military with 
the intention of doing God's work; if they were inclined that way, they 
would join their church denomination's missionary organization.  Not only 
are there a lot of different religions in the US military, and many who 
follow none, but most US soldiers are fighting for either a nation (the US) 
or a paycheck, and although very few would betray their government for a 
bribe, they think more about getting better at their jobs, getting promoted, 
and being able to give themselves and their families more as a result, 
rather than the patriotism aspects, which run heartfellt and deep, but are 
not usually 'worn on the public sleeve'.  It is a career, and the ones who 
choose to stay in that career and make a life of it rather than getting out 
and going to college, as I did, are proud of how good they are at it, like 
most people are concerning whatever career they choose.
>
> A soldier from any organisation will believe they are doing a gods
> work if they believe in that particular diety.
> 
In the US, the emphasis has traditionally been placed upon fighting for 
one's freedom and the freedom of one's countrymen, family and friends, 
and for the preservation of the system of government that majes these 
freedoms possible.
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