On 4 Aug 2002 at 10:58, Mermaid . wrote:
> 1.IDF entered Jenin(which is not Israeli territory).
>
More suicide bombers had come from Jenin that any other Palestinian 
city.  This torrent had to be stopped at the source; the factories that 
build the explosive belts, and the recruiters of suicide bombers.
>
> 2.Palestinian civilians were killed.
>
The incursion was occasioned by the many suicide bombings in which 
Israeli civilians were killed.
>
> 3.Soldiers cannot have an expectation of safety when they wage war.
>
Neither can there be a guarantee that noncombatants who remain in a 
war zone will not be endangered.
>
> 4.Civilians do. 
>
If Israel's intention was to kill noncombatant Palestinians, they could 
have done a much better job of it.  I believe that the final Palestinian 
count in Jenin was 33 combatants and 19 non.
>
>5.Israel is the aggressor and oppressor at Jenin.
>
It did what it felt it had to do to dam the river of suicide bombers issuing 
from there. 
>
> 
> 
> From: joedees@bellsouth.net
> Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: Re: virus: U.N. Jenin Report "Flawed" - HumanRightsWatch
> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 12:14:19 -0500
> 
> Of course this rises to the level of religio-political dogma with
> some: there MUST have been a massacre in Jenin, I intensely feel it in
> my bones, WHEN/WHEREVER Israel launches an incursion, a massacre
> occurs, it MUST occur, its just GOTTA BE that way, so any report that
> disagrees MUST be flawed.  I got an idea!  Let's go ahead anf
> investigate, so we can report that the other heretical report IS
> flawed, and that a massacre DID occur, as MUST be the case!
> 
> ALSO
> [Joe Dees]This perspective would be more convincing had there not been
> TV news clips of Palestinian fighters in Jenin before the battle
> bragging about all the ambushes and booby traps they had set and how
> they were looking forward to killing Israeli soldiers (something they
> subsequently did, with the ais of ambushes and booby traps).
> 
> 
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