On 2 Aug 2002 at 3:43, Hermit wrote:
>
> [Joe Dees 4] Tu quoque. You are doing exactly that, no matter how
> vehemently you deny it; your sources themselves share your biases, and
> that is my point. Ther is only one root estimate to which you are
> referring, by amnesty international, and a whole bunch of cross-post
> copycats of it.
>
> [Hermit 5] I am with Mr Jenkins (infra). This is indeed becoming
> surreal. First you assert that individual deaths can be accounted for.
> When I ask for your list - or at least its source, you assert that all
> of the following sources - including eye-witnesses - derived their
> information from Amnesty International. Count them:H.J. Chien Pakistan
> Observer The Guardian Times of India CommonDreams Los Angeles Times
> The Boston Globe The Washington Post The Independent
> workingforchange.com The Frontier Post [Peshawar] BBC News Online
> Agence France Press Dawn [Hermit 5] Fourteen sources providing cross
> confirmation. Now seeing as you claim to be providing "facts", please
> provide the source that indicates that all of these sources obtained
> their figures from Amnesty International, or I will suspect that you
> are again citing your oipinion as "fact." Perhaps worth observing the
> source of those figures.Democracy Now! is a national,
> listener-sponsored public radio and TV show, pioneering the largest
> community media collaboration in the country. The program was launched
> six years ago as the only daily election show in public broadcasting.
> Because of its success, Democracy Now! broadened its focus and became
> a national news show committed to bringing the voices of the
> marginalized to the airwaves on issues ranging from the global to the
> local.
>
So there IS a single source for them all, with an admitted political bias, and you just
named it.
>
> [Hermit 5] Notice that the appended article is from The Times, not The
> Guardian, which you seem to have taken an aversion to. While it is
> discussing matters from a British perspective, it appears that the
> arguments on Iraq should apply equally in relation to the US. And
> their opinion appears rather different from yours.
>
> [hr]
> If we must go to war, for God's sake tell us why
>
The Iraqi articles I posted did more than that.
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