> That is, of course, the point. It all requires faith, and to the faithful,
> his faith always seems justified while others' seem ridiculous.
>
You have faith in this, of course.
> Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/
> Author, "Virus of the Mind: The New Science of the Meme"
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
> Of Joe E. Dees
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 1998 1:41 PM
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: RE: virus: kurzweil cuts the mustard
>
>
> From: "Richard Brodie" <richard@brodietech.com>
> To: <virus@lucifer.com>
> Subject: RE: virus: kurzweil cuts the mustard
> Date sent: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:20:38 -0800
> Send reply to: virus@lucifer.com
>
> > Studies have shown resoundingly that memory is quite inaccurate. See
> > Dennett's excellent book "Consciousness Explained." Why have faith in your
> > memory?
> >
>
> So why have faith in perception (there are illusions), conception
> (there are delusions) or logic (there are flawed premises and the
> possibility of undetected fallacies)? This reminds me of the Lone
> Ranger and Tonto wandering in the woods. The Lone Ranger turns
> to Tonto and says "Well, I guess we're lost, Tonto." "We not lost,
> Kemosabe," Tonto replied, "we here. Trail lost." Sounds like
> someone's been overdosing on Jean Baudrillard to me. Joe
> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0316180661/memecentral
> >
> > Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/
> > Author, "Virus of the Mind: The New Science of the Meme"
> > http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/votm.htm
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> > http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/meme.htm
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
> > Of MemeLab@aol.com
> > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 1998 12:39 PM
> > To: virus@lucifer.com
> > Subject: Re: virus: kurzweil cuts the mustard
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/31/98 1:56:30 PM Central Standard Time,
> > robin@faichney.demon.co.uk writes:
> >
> > << >Consciousness, whatever it is, is something that evolves in a
> particular
> > >informational processing system, namely our brains.
> >
> > What evidence do you have for the proposition that
> > consciousness "evolves" in our brains?
> > --
> > Robin >>
> >
> > You casually toss out the accusation of "blind faith". Yet we each know
> > from
> > our own memories our own experiences of our own personal consciousness.
> > This
> > doesn't strike me as "blind faith", and to the extent that we all share
> > common
> > experiences about our first memories of consciousness - I don't know
> anyone
> > that can remember their own birth, but many carry memories of childhood,
> and
> > consciousness, whatever it is, cannot exist without some memory of who you
> > are
> > - these cannot be dismissed as merely anecdotal. Your accusation of
> "blind
> > faith", doesn't hold water here. Sounds like just a roundabout insult
> > (might
> > as well declare them "irrational" and be done with it) to those that would
> > actually hold any position on these matters.
> >
> > -Jake P.
> >
>
>