What I am suggesting is this: Just because you cannot personally have another
persons feelings or visions or subjective experiences - in that you cannot put
the thought with its emotions into your head, you can get very close. If
anything, we can get a lot closer to experiencing anothers subjective state than
we can objective reality - which like perfection, is completely unreachable with
our existing hardware and software. Subjectivity is a microscopic piece of the
objective picture.
Bill Roh
Sodom
Tim Rhodes wrote:
> Sodom wrote:
>
> >Subjectivity is just our minds way of explaining what is sees - most of you
> >will agree. If so, with a full understanding of the way the brain
> functions,
> >and I am not stating that we have this understanding yet, we would be able
> to
> >pick subjectivity apart and describe it objectivly.
>
> A complete and full explaination of the physics and mechanics of a roller
> coaster is not the same as the _experience_ of riding it. You seem to have
> overlooked the fact that subjectivity is by definition the "the viewpoint of
> the subject". There is no `magic' involved in saying that the viewpoint of
> an observer is not the same as that of the subject. No matter how well one
> understands the electro-chemical, hormonal, psychological, and emotional
> effects of an experience, nevertheless this still remains qualitatively
> different from what is actually experienced by the subject.
>
> Even a perfectly understood orgasm is not the same as having one.
>
> -Prof. Tim