virus: If you're watchin' IT ya' ain't a part of IT (was: David's top 10 (here and now))

Tim Rhodes (proftim@speakeasy.org)
Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:37:17 -0700


Sodom wrote:

>Subjectivity is just our minds way of explaining what is sees - most of you
>will agree. If so, with a full understanding of the way the brain
functions,
>and I am not stating that we have this understanding yet, we would be able
to
>pick subjectivity apart and describe it objectivly.

A complete and full explaination of the physics and mechanics of a roller
coaster is not the same as the _experience_ of riding it. You seem to have
overlooked the fact that subjectivity is by definition the "the viewpoint of
the subject". There is no `magic' involved in saying that the viewpoint of
an observer is not the same as that of the subject. No matter how well one
understands the electro-chemical, hormonal, psychological, and emotional
effects of an experience, nevertheless this still remains qualitatively
different from what is actually experienced by the subject.

Even a perfectly understood orgasm is not the same as having one.

-Prof. Tim