RE: virus: Memetic Engineering

Richard Brodie (richard@brodietech.com)
Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:25:07 -0700


You claim I am equivocating; I claim you are being disingenuous. What is an
example of a case where, in your eyes, another mind has an equally valid,
but conflicting, model of reality from your own?

Level-2'ers are not idiots. In fact in my experience it is the most
educated, intellectual people who get most stuck in Level 2.

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Author, "Virus of the Mind: The New Science of the Meme"
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of
Nathaniel Hall
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 1998 6:20 AM
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: Re: virus: Memetic Engineering

Richard Brodie wrote:
>
> Nate is correct speaking from a Level-2 standpoint, in which there is only
> one possible model of reality (usually referred to as "Truth"). Level-2
> players end up looking in a puzzled manner at all the idiots out there who
> don't seem to understand the simple truth. Ironically, they are looked at
by
> others the same way. Consider the recently posted speech from the
> Congressman who is on the House Science Committee in which he blasts
stupid
> scientists for not believing in God.
>
> In Level 3, there are multiple, conflicting models of reality. One can be
at
> peace with the fact that God is just as real as Science. Science is a nice
> model for designing airplanes, but so far has proved inferior to religion
> for purposes such as community cohesion, inspirational leadership, and the
> pursuit of happiness (drugs excepted).
>
> Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/
> Author, "Virus of the Mind: The New Science of the Meme"
> http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/votm.htm
> Free newsletter! Visit Meme Central at
> http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/meme.htm

A clever equivocation. I claim there is only one reality, that which
exists, but of course there are many different models of it. Nearly as
many models as there are minds trying to understand it. ( It would be
equal to the total number of minds but the difference is made up by
those minds trying not to understand it )

The stuck on level two idiot
Nate Hall
surf.to/nateman