Perhaps the meme is not so much individaul notes, but scale concepts. The
scale the west uses (do-ra-me-fa-so-la-ti-do) or (1-1-.5-1-1-1.5) has been
the main mode of music writing for hundreds of years. It is very - very
difficult for westerners to think or reproduce notes from other scales - for
most people it is downright impossible. In the lydian scale, all notes are
whole steps away from each other - In arabic scales, there are quarter steps
that most western instruments arent even capable of differentiating.
Sodom
Bill Roh
Joe E. Dees wrote:
> From: "B. Lane Robertson" <metaphy@hotmail.com>
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: virus: Nursery Rhyme Memes
> Date sent: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 23:34:37 PDT
> Send reply to: virus@lucifer.com
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> > I assume that nursery rhymes are one of the best
> > examples of a particular type of meme (memes that
> > relate to oral tradition). Still, upon writing
> > this I find myself wondering how to describe the
> > nursery rhyme as an *example* of a meme rather
> > than saying that they *are* the meme. Though my
> > point is that the organization of ideas according
> > to patterns which evolve and are replicated might
> > be expressed in a very succinct fashion in such a
> > form-- which stresses organization, patterns,
> > evolution, and being passed on.
> >
> > Does someone want to do a study of the basic ideas
> > transmitted by nursery rhymes and the patterns
> > these ideas are organized into, noting the
> > evolution of such patterns and their propensity to
> > being passed on (in specific situations)? I think
> > such a study would give a good indication of what,
> > exactly, the basic ideas and patterns might be.
> >
> > To give Wade the benefit of a doubt, I am not
> > opposed to saying that these "patterns" would ALSO
> > be in evidence in the organization of neural
> > networks, brainwave patterns, and even physical
> > structures. (Yes, I am saying that brains would
> > be organized into "nursery rhyme" patterns. If
> > this were shown to be possible, what else could we
> > attribute this to EXCEPT memes?).
> >
> >
> > B. Lane Robertson
> > Indiana, USA
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>
> What about the musical "hook" or melody (minus words) that plays
> itself incessantly in your head like a broken record (even when you
> may find it annoying)? It is bereft of any overt linguistic or abstract
> ideational significance; but is it not also a meme? I say it has
> identifiable structure and has been transmitted (replicated),
> therefore it qualifies, whether or not it carries meaning.
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