-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Hartwig <hartwig@ais.net>
To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?
>Johnny,
>
>The most depressing part of this thread is that you're not coming up with
>anything original. I could refute virtually every one of your points so
>far simply by cutting and pasting from other on-line debates that I've had
>over the last year. Come on man, make me think!
>
>
>At 05:59 PM 6/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>This always goes back to the age-old question: Which came first
>>the chicken or the egg?
>>Try explaining how a little bit of organic matter evolves into an
>>intelligent race of human beings.
>>You'd have a more difficult time explaining that to an outside being than
>>explaining an outside being to us.
>>
>>Where did the matter in the universe come from? Did all matter just
>>instantaneously appear in the big bang? If so, who or what caused the
>>big bang? Don't pretend to know these answers.... Nobody does but
>>God.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: sodom <Sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
>>To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
>>Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 4:42 PM
>>Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?
>>
>>
>>>Ok, now it is more limited, and much less definable. You are willihng to
>>leave
>>>to chance that planets will form, and some of them will be in the "life
>>zone".
>>>But God is necessary to spark intelligence. So what about unintellint
>>animals.
>>>Do they exist?
>>>
>>>Sodom
>>>
>>>Johnny Rea wrote:
>>>
>>>> I meant worlds with Intelligent life not just worlds.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sodom <Sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
>>>> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 3:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?
>>>>
>>>> >And why not? Why not there by chance. When you have 4 billion stars in
>>this
>>>> one
>>>> >galaxy alone, the "chance" you talk about becomes a virtual certainty.
>>>> >
>>>> >Sodom
>>>> >
>>>> >Johnny Rea wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> From: sodom <Sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
>>>> >> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
>>>> >> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 1:42 PM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?
>>>> >> vidently not.
>>>> >> Actually you have it backwards and need to read the paper. Ever
heard
>>of
>>>> the
>>>> >> Hubble Space Telescope? Do you realize that we see a "wobble" in
every
>>>> star
>>>> >> we look at? Once again, people with no understanding of Physics or
>>>> Astronomy
>>>> >> have been talking to you. We have imaged what we think is an
>>extrasolar
>>>> >> planet, we have mathematically shown that at least 8 near stars have
>>>> objects
>>>> >> orbiting them? You seem to have your Universal view turned inside
out.
>>>> you
>>>> >> think of us as special, as your God has told you to. Think about it
>>this
>>>> >> way, we are not special, we are an average sampling of the galaxy.
An
>>>> >> insignificant scribble in the history book of the Universe. For a
>>basic
>>>> >> introduction to the Universe around us, go here -
>>>> >> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html I went to your page,
>>so
>>>> take
>>>> >> a look.
>>>> >> Oh, I wholeheartedly agree that there are other worlds out there!
God
>>>> >> created many worlds. I just dont think there are
>>>> >>
>>>> >> other worlds out there BY CHANCE.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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