Re: virus: Races

Michal Kulczycki (88802@dawid.uni.wroc.pl)
Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:54:23 +0200


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Boyd <6ceb3@qlink.queensu.ca>
To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
Date: 14 czerwca 1998 22:25
Subject: virus: Races

>[...]However, I think that moving
>from this to concluding that "races" may be more or less intelligent than
>other races is a huge leap... we all possess roughly the same brain, after
>all.

It is another misunderstanding. I did not say some races are more
intelligent in general. I meant special abilities - 's' factors.

What would you say about BigDon project? Current results bury egalitarians
deeply in the sand.

>Was the experiment done in such a way that all other factors which affect
>intelligence (e.g. education, exposure to literature, etc.) were
>controlled?

3D operations are considered culure-free. Both Raven's Tests is are examples
of such, specialized one.

>Nature only
>takes one so far -- about as far as a cave man, I believe -- after that,
>all the rest of the development is due to nurture.

Why go any further? Can't we safely assume that the very beginning of
religions takes place then?

> If one race has (say)
>better spatial perception than another, that tells us that the culture he
>lives in values (eg trains for) that quality/ability more.

Why trains? We are all (I hope) darwinists, we should consider first things
first. Is it so strange to suspect that due to natural reasons some percent
of a population dies out. These natural reason would be the must of
transforming 3D easily. Why can't such elimination result in more spatial
race (or tribe, clan...)?

>To confirm my thesis, one need only point to adopted children -- as a
>class, do they show the aptitudes of their *biological* parents, or their
>*sociological* parents? My money is on the later.

Consider it mine :-))

As I wrote two times
"Scientific American" May'98, article :"The Genetics of Cognitive....", page
45, at the bottom there is a nice chart.

Method : MZA, Adoptions
Correlations legend:
A: children and their birth parents
B: adopted children and their birth parents,
C: adopted children and their adoptive parents
Let's say - spatial ability

Age in years:
3: A=.15; B=.09; C=.02 !
4: A=.18 ; B=.07 ; C=.01 !
5: A=.20 ; B=.18 ; C=.02 !
....and it is getting worser and worser for your thesis :-)
C-correlation never exceedes 0.03 and it even happened to be negative
= -0.02
In terms of statistics it means that there is no such correlation.

What now?

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Michal Kulczycki AKA Ronan the Great
University of Wroclaw, Psychology Dept.
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