Johnny Rea wrote:
> I have to ask you where is your proof that Christ did not exist? Do you
> realize that
> even most scientists admit that Christ existed. Even the the Jews know he
> existed
> (they just don't believe he was the son of God.)
Umm - are you there? This is the same as the God argument. Other than the fact
that jesus is never mentioned anywhere until the Bible proclaimed him 75 to 150
years after he was supposed to live. There are no Roman records of him, or other
records of him. Even his likeness is taken from Horus, the Egyption god that was
born to a virgin, in a cave, with three wise men attending.
> I agree that Jesus was prophesized in the old testament (as well as in the
> Book of
> Mormon).
> Whether or not the names for Christ are from other religions is moot. Many
> other
> religions have pieces of the truth but not the whole truth.
Except that they were first, you have it backwards. Your beliefs are the copies,
the false beliefs. It's not that they are names for Christ, it's that the early
Christians, while fighting the pagens, took all they could from the pagan
religions to help in the conversion process.
> Not everyone can take drugs like you do and have it not effect their life in
> a negative
> fashion. We believe it is better to just not take the chance.
> How can one put a ban on Diabetes, cancer, etc?
> The point of the Word of Wisdom is you don't volunteerily put into your body
> substances
> that can harm the tabernacle.
>
Most do, and you never hear about it. All of the Disease i mention are diseases
that can be prevented in most cases. Is the book of Mormon changing to meet new
discoveries. Have they banned most meat? sugar and the million other substances
that could hurt you?
> >> >4> I love aggressive and sexual movies. I find them to be an excellent
> >> release
> >> >and beneficial to the collective wisdom.
> >>
> >> When you fill your mind with visions of aggression and sexual deviance
> then
> >> you
> >> are creating a mind that becomes numb to it.
> >>
> >
> >Quite the contrary, I do not have difficulty seperation reality from
> fiction, I
> >know this is impossible for any believer to understand, because your faith
> >depends upon believeing the unbeliavable. My mind is my playground. i do
> with
> >it what I will. I am non-violent, and generally non-aggressive. In fact,
> most
> >of this worlds violence can be traced to religion. Wars, oppression etc...
> Again, you are the exception, not the rule. Many people are affected
> adversely
> by images of violence, images of rape, etc they see.
>
That is a quite popular statement from those who support censorship,
unfortunatly, what you are saying is not the truth. Most people that are violent
and react violently have found it in their family lives. There is not a direct
correltaion between violence and violent television. I cant say i am aware of
anyone who has reacted violently because of seeing violence on the screen. i am
aware of some children doing copy-cat stuff, but usually it is of the stupid
type, not the violent type.
> >
> >> >5> I especially love pornography provided that the participants are
> >> willing. I
> >> >think it is much better that society and people indulge in sexual
> activity
> >> at
> >> >will, I can see no reason why this would be something to refrain from
> >> unless you
> >> >simply dont want to.
> >>
> >> With a name like Sodom it doesn't surprise me you feel this way.
> >
> > You are full of misconception, because you are ready to "understand"
> without
> >evidence. My chosen handle, Sodom, is a note to believers. Acording to the
> old
> >testament Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed becasue they were evil, yet
> when
> >Lot offered up his two virgin duaghters to the mob instead of two angels
> who
> >were capable of defending thewmselves, we saw the true depravity of the old
> >testament. I say that Lot was evil, that your God teaches genocide to cause
> >fear of that which it cannot understand.
> >
> >Sodom
>
> Lot placed his faith in God and knew that God would not allow harm to come
> to
> his daughters if he gave them to the mob.
How did he know this, that is not stated. That is conjecture to protect the
meme.
> HOwever, if he had given the
> angels
> to them he guessed that would be a disgrace to God.
> Since God created man I guess it is his option how he punishes those who
> are evil.
Like ordering the elimination of everyone in two cities, also dont forget the
Canaanites. Basically you see this genocidal God of yours as a kind and loving
individual?
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Johnny Rea wrote:
Umm - are you there? This is the same as the God argument. Other than the fact that jesus is never mentioned anywhere until the Bible proclaimed him 75 to 150 years after he was supposed to live. There are no Roman records of him, or other records of him. Even his likeness is taken from Horus, the Egyption god that was born to a virgin, in a cave, with three wise men attending.I have to ask you where is your proof that Christ did not exist? Do you
realize that
even most scientists admit that Christ existed. Even the the Jews know he
existed
(they just don't believe he was the son of God.)
Except that they were first, you have it backwards. Your beliefs are the copies, the false beliefs. It's not that they are names for Christ, it's that the early Christians, while fighting the pagens, took all they could from the pagan religions to help in the conversion process.I agree that Jesus was prophesized in the old testament (as well as in the
Book of
Mormon).
Whether or not the names for Christ are from other religions is moot. Many
other
religions have pieces of the truth but not the whole truth.
Not everyone can take drugs like you do and have it not effect their life inMost do, and you never hear about it. All of the Disease i mention are diseases that can be prevented in most cases. Is the book of Mormon changing to meet new discoveries. Have they banned most meat? sugar and the million other substances that could hurt you?
a negative
fashion. We believe it is better to just not take the chance.
How can one put a ban on Diabetes, cancer, etc?
The point of the Word of Wisdom is you don't volunteerily put into your body
substances
that can harm the tabernacle.
>> >4> I love aggressive and sexual movies. I find them to be an excellent
>> release
>> >and beneficial to the collective wisdom.
>>
>> When you fill your mind with visions of aggression and sexual deviance
then
>> you
>> are creating a mind that becomes numb to it.
>>
>
>Quite the contrary, I do not have difficulty seperation reality from
fiction, I
>know this is impossible for any believer to understand, because your faith
>depends upon believeing the unbeliavable. My mind is my playground. i do
with
>it what I will. I am non-violent, and generally non-aggressive. In fact,
most
>of this worlds violence can be traced to religion. Wars, oppression etc...
That is a quite popular statement from those who support censorship, unfortunatly, what you are saying is not the truth. Most people that are violent and react violently have found it in their family lives. There is not a direct correltaion between violence and violent television. I cant say i am aware of anyone who has reacted violently because of seeing violence on the screen. i am aware of some children doing copy-cat stuff, but usually it is of the stupid type, not the violent type.Again, you are the exception, not the rule. Many people are affected
adversely
by images of violence, images of rape, etc they see.
How did he know this, that is not stated. That is conjecture to protect the meme.>
>> >5> I especially love pornography provided that the participants are
>> willing. I
>> >think it is much better that society and people indulge in sexual
activity
>> at
>> >will, I can see no reason why this would be something to refrain from
>> unless you
>> >simply dont want to.
>>
>> With a name like Sodom it doesn't surprise me you feel this way.
>
> You are full of misconception, because you are ready to "understand"
without
>evidence. My chosen handle, Sodom, is a note to believers. Acording to the
old
>testament Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed becasue they were evil, yet
when
>Lot offered up his two virgin duaghters to the mob instead of two angels
who
>were capable of defending thewmselves, we saw the true depravity of the old
>testament. I say that Lot was evil, that your God teaches genocide to cause
>fear of that which it cannot understand.
>
>SodomLot placed his faith in God and knew that God would not allow harm to come
to
his daughters if he gave them to the mob.
HOwever, if he had given theLike ordering the elimination of everyone in two cities, also dont forget the Canaanites. Basically you see this genocidal God of yours as a kind and loving individual?
angels
to them he guessed that would be a disgrace to God.
Since God created man I guess it is his option how he punishes those who
are evil.
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