-----Original Message-----
From: Joe E. Dees <jdees0@students.uwf.edu>
To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?
> From: "Johnny Rea" <matziq@airmail.net>
> To: <virus@lucifer.com>
> Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:01:25 -0500
> Reply-to: virus@lucifer.com
> Well, you have to ask yourself is our only senses what we see, hear,
smell,
> taste, and touch? Or is there other ways of finding truth? We have
> determined
> that personal revelation is a sort of sixth sense.
> >From an early age, all Mormons are urged to read the Book of Mormon and
> determine for themselves if they BELIEVE it is true. They are asked to
pray
> about it AND get an answer!!! I know you will never do it but if you would
> just
> read the Book of Mormon cover to cover and then go back to Moroni 10:4 and
> do as it says you will find out for yourself the truth.
>
> If you've ever cracked open a Book of Mormon you will find the testimony
of
> the three witnesses and other witness accounts. Do eye witnesses have
> any weight when determining truth?
>
>I can write a "holy book" and include witness testimony. It doesn't
>mean that they existed or so testified, or that I am to be believed
>about them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sodom <Sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 11:28 AM
> Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?
>
>
> >Actually, there is more to it than that. It is about "why" you believe.
> >The question is to me: Is there just cause to believe that the book of
> >Mormon is true? For me, belief is never an issue, just a continuuing
> >scale of more likely less likely. Are you a believing Mormon because the
> >evidence lends itself to that conclusion based upon objective,
> >observable facts - or - Have you been told the same thing your entire
> >life, and is it now so hard wired into your brain that you have no
> >choice but to believe, and couldn't leave the church no matter how badly
> >you wanted. This would make you an unknowing slave of makebelieve. If
> >you are willing to stand upon proven fraud, and claim it's reality, then
> >almost everything you do and say is subject to the "religious filter" I
> >have set up in my head. Everything you say will need to be pruned of
> >failed logic first before I can actuially consider what you are saying.
> >I would rather not have to do that as I do with most of society.
> >
> >Sodom
> >P.S. If it makes you feel any better, ill bet there were not any
> >Atheists participationg in the Mormon bashing when you were young, we
> >usually find more appropiate places for religious objection.
> >
> >Johnny Rea wrote:
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: C.A. Cook <coreycook12@email.msn.com>
> >> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 1:03 AM
> >> Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?
> >>
> >> Sorry, dude. It is literature. Some people say is is more,
> >> others less. THAT doesn't make it more or less.
> >>
> >> CA Cook, LF
> >> coreycook12@email.msn.com
> >>
> >> PS I hope you don't get offended. All too many of the
> >> religious fundies that wander in here stomp out in a
> >> snit. Just try to keep your head on straight, and be
> >> friendly. Or not. Whatever you want.
> >>
> >> I am not offended in the least. I would like to know how you came
> >> to the conclusion that the Book of Mormon is a work of literature,
> >> though. Or you saying that Joseph Smith made up the Book of Mormon
> >> as a work of fiction? If that is what you are saying then I can only
> >> tell you that is not what Mormons believe and we can move on.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>