Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?

Johnny Rea (matziq@airmail.net)
Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:29:02 -0500


-----Original Message-----
From: sodom <Sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?

>First, i dont believe there ever was a Jesus Christ, second, most
Christians
>claim that Jesus was prophesized in the old testament. Without that, how
would
>he have been known as the Christ. Third, all the words you use for Christ
were
>stolen from earlier Pagan religions. Lamb of God, The Word, the Way etc...
all
>from other religions.

I have to ask you where is your proof that Christ did not exist? Do you
realize that
even most scientists admit that Christ existed. Even the the Jews know he
existed
(they just don't believe he was the son of God.)
I agree that Jesus was prophesized in the old testament (as well as in the
Book of
Mormon).
Whether or not the names for Christ are from other religions is moot. Many
other
religions have pieces of the truth but not the whole truth.

>> >I disagreee wholeheartedly here.1> I love drugs and their benefit has
been
>> >utterly without compare in my life and many others
>>
>> Drugs have been the ruin of many a man & woman...as has alcohol.
>
>No, people have ruined themselves by abuse. Cars kill over 60,000 people a
>year, a lot more than drugs, yet i dont see you fighting that. What about
Heart
>disease, Diabetes, cancer, these are the ruiners of life.

Not everyone can take drugs like you do and have it not effect their life in
a negative
fashion. We believe it is better to just not take the chance.
How can one put a ban on Diabetes, cancer, etc?
The point of the Word of Wisdom is you don't volunteerily put into your body
substances
that can harm the tabernacle.

>> >4> I love aggressive and sexual movies. I find them to be an excellent
>> release
>> >and beneficial to the collective wisdom.
>>
>> When you fill your mind with visions of aggression and sexual deviance
then
>> you
>> are creating a mind that becomes numb to it.
>>
>
>Quite the contrary, I do not have difficulty seperation reality from
fiction, I
>know this is impossible for any believer to understand, because your faith
>depends upon believeing the unbeliavable. My mind is my playground. i do
with
>it what I will. I am non-violent, and generally non-aggressive. In fact,
most
>of this worlds violence can be traced to religion. Wars, oppression etc...

Again, you are the exception, not the rule. Many people are affected
adversely
by images of violence, images of rape, etc they see.

>
>> >5> I especially love pornography provided that the participants are
>> willing. I
>> >think it is much better that society and people indulge in sexual
activity
>> at
>> >will, I can see no reason why this would be something to refrain from
>> unless you
>> >simply dont want to.
>>
>> With a name like Sodom it doesn't surprise me you feel this way.
>
> You are full of misconception, because you are ready to "understand"
without
>evidence. My chosen handle, Sodom, is a note to believers. Acording to the
old
>testament Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed becasue they were evil, yet
when
>Lot offered up his two virgin duaghters to the mob instead of two angels
who
>were capable of defending thewmselves, we saw the true depravity of the old
>testament. I say that Lot was evil, that your God teaches genocide to cause
>fear of that which it cannot understand.
>
>Sodom

Lot placed his faith in God and knew that God would not allow harm to come
to
his daughters if he gave them to the mob. HOwever, if he had given the
angels
to them he guessed that would be a disgrace to God.
Since God created man I guess it is his option how he punishes those who
are evil.