> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe E. Dees <jdees0@students.uwf.edu>
> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: virus: Virus: Opinions?
>
> >Crazy?
> >Of course they can be; How many Nazis were there? How many Maoists?
> >The "forty million flies can't be wrong" reverse ad hominum defense
> >holds no logical water. There's a lot of New Age bizarrity in
> >Mormon metaphysics, and the most bizarre thing is that otherwise
> >intelligent people yoke their self-esteem wagon tongues so zealously
> >to the star of such an absurd doctrine.
> >
>
> What, exactly, is so absurd about the Mormon doctrine of which you speak?
> Is it so absurd that Mormons believe in treating their fellow man with
> respect,
> being honorable, good, kind, helpful to their fellow man (i.e. following the
> teachings
> of Christ)? Is it so absurd that Joseph Smith was visited by God? If you
> deny
> the existance of God then that is one thing...but if you believe there is a
> God then
> why is it so absurd that he visited one of his earthly children?
Only one line makes sense here, and you said it "If you deny
the existance of God then that is one thing." Thats exactly it. We do deny that
existence, but, if there were evidence to support it, we would consider it. None
of the doctrines you mention point to a God, and the God that you see from your
teachings of Christ acts very differently that the God of more ancient doctrine.
Treating your fellow man well is rarely espoused by Christ. I am willing to bet
good money that for every nice thing Christ was supposed to say in the new
Testament, there was at least one mean thing about suffering or torment. Yes, it
is absurd that Joseph Smith was visited by God, Im not saying he did not see
"God", But since I have done that, and as far as I could tell at the time it
seem real, for a while, I am saying that if indeed he saw "god" it was a
hallucination. My next guess is that he made it up for money, or power, or fear,
or women.
Sodom