Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?

Nathan Russell (frussell@frontiernet.net)
Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:56:29 -0400


Johnny Rea wrote:

> I do know that my sister's
> ex-husband
> is an ex-communicated Mormon who was HIGHLY abusive.
>

Was this the reason for excommunication?

> JOSEPH Smith (note: he went by Joseph his entire life...not Joe) never
> acknowledged his writings were fancy and that quote by Brigham Young is
> absolutely false. Can you tell me where you got this information?
>
> As far as the population issue, Mormons believe that all God's children must
> leave his presence, go to Earth and receive a body, live a full life and
> strive
> to be Christ-like in every way, die and be resurrected.
> We believe that we should have as many children as we can support (notice
> the keyword 'SUPPORT') thereby giving bodies to as many spirit children
> as possible.

Are there actual bans on contraception and/or abortion?

> The problems with overpopulation are largely because of
> third world countries and families there having many many more children
> than they can 'support'...i.e. food, clothing, shelter, etc. If a husband
> and wife
> can support 11 children than so be it....
> And since the Mormon church has its own welfare system, no members of the
> church ever need to rely on government assistance.
>
> The kindness issue you touched on concerning your childhood friends and
> neighbors is an important one. The morals and values that the Mormon
> church teaches its members is what makes the church so attractive to many
> people today. For example, the FBI and CIA actively recruit return Mormon
> missionaries at BYU for service because of their well known high values and
> morals.
>

Wouldn't this be a violation of the 1st amendment? ("The United States shall
not recognize any establisahment of religion...")

> Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sodom <Sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?
>

<much snipped>

> My last argument with the Mormons is their irresponsible outlook on
> population.
> They seem to have VERY high birthrates. In my view, irresponsible
> reproduction
> for any reason is a major *sin*.
>

I don't believe in sin or similiar concepts, but I weould agree that it is an
attempt to promote the individual's genetic survival above that of society.

--
Nathan Russell
frussell@frontiernet.net

"I am confident that the Republicans will pick a nominee that will beat Bill Clinton" -Dan Quayle on the 2000 presidential election