Anytime I see or hear the name Velikovsky, my bullshit detector leaps into
the overload sector of the dial.
If you examine some of Venus's key characteristics, which we have measured
with certainty e.g., diameter 12,100 km, density 5.2 grams per cubic
centimeter, surface temperature 482 degrees Celsius, we realize that not in
a month of Sundays could it possibly have originated as a "dirty, fuzzy
snowball" or comet.
As we also have historical references to Venus (in the Vedas) dating back to
some 6,500BCE, so the dating would be suspect, even if it were possible for
Venus to have been a comet.
Finally, there had to be something in Venus' orbit about 4.5E9 years ago, or
neither the Earth nor Mars would be where they are today. If it was not
Venus, what was it and where did it go to?
I do not see how a "comet" narrowly missing the earth could have any effect
on the ice caps at all, despite their "weight". In this discussion, weight
is irrelevant. Mass is much more useful. A given volume of water is much
less massy than an equivalent volume of most igneous rocks. So if the
argument is that somehow the mass of the water caused the ice-caps to move,
why didn't the much massier rocks move because of it too?
As far as the great pyramid is concerned, we have an unbroken chain of myth
and archeology, from the late stone and early bronze age stone piles
designed to prevent animals from gaining access to the bodies, through the
early pyramid, then the stepped pyramid at Saqqara that Imhotep designed for
King Zoser through to the northern pyramid of Sneferu, through the Ghiza
pyramids, Menkaure, Khafre, and finally the great pyramid of Khufu.
It seems strange that people like to imply that the great pyramid needed
some leap in capability, concept or technology, when the record of
development leading up to it is "graven in stone". And there is no sign of
this technique being used elsewhere. So I think that your Mr. Noone's theory
has its throat cut by Ockham's Razor.
A body containing moisture in a sealed chamber soon releases the water into
the environment, and everything is soon covered in fungi, algae and moulds.
Even peoples breath contains enough moisture to increase the humidity in
closed chambers dramatically. The Egyptians knew that. And as their
preservation techniques relied on desiccation, they provided venting...
Regards TheHermit on DALnet
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
> Of C.A. Cook
> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 1998 10:42 PM
> To: Virus
> Subject: virus: Update on the search.
>
>
> The following is a copy of a letter that I sent off to the "The
> 'Ask a NASA
> Scientist" web page. http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ask_astro.pl
> In reviewing it, I fear that I might have been too succinct. My
> abruptness
> might trigger a histameme reaction.
> >>
> I have just finished a book by a Mr. Noone titled 5/5/2000.
> In it, he speculated on a number of calamities that might
> befall on the date of the planetary alignment.
> Your web page does an excellent job of refuting a number
> of his theories. There are a few things that you could clear
> up, though. One of his speculations was based on the writings
> of the Russian author, Velikovsky. According
> to the big V, Venus wasn't formed as a planet. Originally,
> around 4000 BC, Venus was a comet on a near-collision
> with earth. As a result of this near-miss, the polar ice
> caps, because of their weight, were shifted toward the equator.
> As they shifted, their motion caused the very crust of the
> earth to shift on the mantle that the tectonic plates rest on. The
> implication of this calamity destroying an earlier civilization is
> heavily weighed by Mr. Noone. In this manner, he explains that
> the Great Pyramid was built by the survivors of this disaster.
> Furthermore, the Great Pyramid was built as an observatory for future
> generations to use, in order to predict the date of the
> next occurrence of a polar ice shift. 5/5/2000 claims
> that the title date is the date predicted by the Great
> Pyramid. In addition, Mr. Noone thinks that all the
> other pyramids were built afterwords, by the sub-culture
> survivors of the disaster.
>
> Contrariwise, my copy of Encarta 98 Encyclopedia reads:
> "Egyptian pharaoh (circa 2638-2613 BC). Khufu was the
> second king of the 4th Dynasty, also known as the Memphite
> dynasty. The outstanding event of his reign was the construction
> of the Great Pyramid at Giza, near Cairo."**
>
> However, my CD-Encyclopedia also says:
> "Many theories have been advanced to explain the purpose
> of pyramids; the answer is simple: They were built to preserve
> and protect the bodies of the kings for eternity."**
>
> If this were in fact the truth, why are there air shafts
> in the structure? Wouldn't those shafts admit fresh air,
> and then destroy the mummy?
>
> What do you think? Could the ice caps weigh enough to
> actually shove the other plates out of the way?
> According to Eurekalert.org, "The volume of the world's glaciers
> outside of Antarctica and the Greenland Ice Sheet continues to
> decline and the rate of ice loss continues to accelerate, according
> to a new University of Colorado at Boulder study. "
> http://www.eurekalert.org/summaries/4445.html
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> **
> "Egyptian Art and Architecture,"; "Khufu," Microsoft(R) Encarta(R) 98
> Encyclopedia. (c) 1993-1997 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
> <<
>
> The "Earth Changes Update", at:
> http://www.zyz.com/survivalcenter/echange.html
> makes the offer of interviewing the author of 5/5/2000, Mr. Richard Noone.
> They say:
> "If you know of any media who would like to interview Mr. Noone, please
> e-mail us: noone@survivalcenter.com"
>
> If we can come up with a list of questions for Mr. Noone, shall
> we drop him
> a line?
>
> CA Cook, LF
> coreycook12@email.msn.com
>
>
>
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