Re: virus: Angry young Men

Sodom (sodom@ma.ultranet.com)
Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:21:58 -0400


red_mist wrote:

> Normally it is a feeling of helplessness. You get a lot of politicians
> and your own parents making rules that you don't agree with and you want
> to rebel against this.
> I suffer from this sometimes. It's more a feeling that you have to do
> something to change things but you feel powerless, as if everyone is
> against you and not listening to the message you feel you have to get
> across. The hacker society is probably the best example of this. Most
> hackers are very smart, you need to be to understand the technology,
> more smart even that the people who are ruling their lives. So hackers
> resort to getting their message across by hacking web sites and other
> things. Hackers are very smart in some ways but a because they are
> normally under about 18 they don't have the experience to know the best
> way of putting their message across, they get very frustrated so they
> resort to this type of thing.
> --
> Only the weak are blind when the mist descends
> red_mist

I can agree that this may well be part of the cause. It seems to be echoed
in other messages regarding this subject too. So far I agree with all the
reasons mentioned. red_mist - you seem to be close to this age group so you
perhaps have a perspective I now lack. It seems to me that the flaw in the
AYM syndrome is the concept that they are "smart". Lets specify - they have a
skill in a single area that is stronger than most of the populace; However,
there are those like myself and others, who also grew up with computers from
a very young age and can or have hacked. We are now professionals and get
paid to work on computers. Besides experience, we also have a wealth of
philosophical strengths that most 18yr olds cant touch. some of us also have
a much grander view of hacking. What a hacker may think is a big deal, a few
hundred dollars or so, doesn't mean squat to me. we dont care about the
little stuff that much, its the big ones that we are worried about. Its the
hacker that takes down a corporate network, or distributes classified info,
that bother us. Corporate America doesnt have the will to deal with the
onsies - twosies that most hackers get their thrills from. But if they did,
they will would catch them. Like it or not - and i dont like it - money seems
to be a prime motivator in this country.

I have no doubt that you are right about why they resort to cyberviolence,
but if there was no option for cyberviolence, say computers didn't exist,
then what would they do? Violence of another type? Withdraw? any ideas?

Sodom