RE: virus: Level-3, Logotherapy and Prejudice

Richard Brodie (
Wed, 4 Dec 1996 13:25:58 -0800

Lior wrote:

>> This shows up constantly when I speak about memetics. The educated
>> Level-2'er will listen for a few seconds, then think, "ah, this is
>> sociobiology, it's been discredited" or "this smacks of self-help, which
>> is pop psychology, no need to pay attention." My challenge is to break
>> people out of that mode and let them learn a new paradigm.
>What makes you believe Level-3ers don't do the same?

I didn't say they don't, although in my experience they tend to be much
more open-minded. I was relating a problem I had communicating with

>A meaning can change the criterions of distinguishing and\or change the
>values of right and wrong upon which to treat input. However it does
>prevent\limit the usage of distinguish-and-discard mode.

You keep saying "a meaning", which I am mentally rewording to "a
purpose". Is that you intent? And no, having a purpose of goal certainly
does not limit d&d mode. There's more to Level 3 than having a purpose.

> Breaking out
>that mode is called 'getting attention', and it hasn't much to do with
>the existence of a meaning. Do you agree?

I'm afraid I don't understand this last comment.
>>>Frankel has never hinted about any similar idea while discussing
>>>Logotherapy, so it must some idea of yours.
>>>Please explain yourself.
>>I think it's an idea of YOURS. Level 3 has little to do with judging
>>people. It has to do with control over your unconscious perceptions and
>"The one with the black shirt - HE did it!" ;)

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>Do you know what a "meme" is?