Re: virus: Martyrdom

Martin Traynor (m.traynor@ic.ac.uk)
Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:01:48 +0000


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On 26 Oct 96 at 20:52, Peter Vkner wrote:

> David Leeper:
> >I would call this "courage" and "patriotism", but not "martyrdom".
>
> Why not? Same-same, isn't it?, as long as you are prepared to kill and die
> by the judgement of others.

No. The two are often found together but they are not the same.
Martyrdom in itself says nothing about the will or judgement of
others, nor about killing.

> >I don't think the meme "Martyrdom" is as powerful as it seems at first.
> >In previous postings,

In what sense are you using the word power here David? I put it to
you that any meme which causes the death of its hosts yet still
manages to replicate has a certain power not commonly found.


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