virus: Meta-memes

David Leeper (
Sat, 19 Oct 1996 14:21:26 -0500

:> I think consciousness requires memes, meta-memes,
:> and environment (including the body). Without
:> memes, there'd be no meta-memes. Without meta-memes,
:> we'd be pulled in this direction, then that
:> direction by our conflicting memes. Without environment,
:> neither memes nor meta-memes would receive any real stimulus.
:Hmm...I'll have to look at this more closely.
:My point is that consciousness is nearly the ultimate qualium; absence of
:this qualium makes the others less than conceivable. In this model, we
:need a metameme that generates this qualium.

Perhaps not. What if consciousness is the Emergent Behavior of environment,
memes and meta-memes?

David Leeper
Homo Deus