RE: Re(4): virus: Forwarding: some comments about the concept

Stephen Anfort (anforts@cadvision.com)
Mon, 8 Jan 1996 10:03:16 -0700


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From: David McFadzean[SMTP:dbm@merak.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 1996 1:48 PM
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: Re: Re(4): virus: Forwarding: some comments about the concept

I was working under the assumption that memes cause our behavior in the
same or similar way that computer programs (being patterns of information
in memory) cause computers to behave. Of course the causality gets
extremely complex when it is an interactive application which causes
the human user to enter data or click the mouse in such a way as to
control the program. In this case the user and the program are controlling
each other; together they form a recurrent complex dynamic system. My
claim is that both the computer and human are recurrent complex
dynamic systems by themselves, though the human is more complex by
several orders of magnitude. Is this making any sense?

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David McFadzean                 dbm@merak.com
Memetic Engineer                http://www.merak.com/~dbm/
Merak Projects Ltd.

Would you say then, by extension, that the human brain will always be able to control the machine due to its inherent complexity?

Stephen Anfort

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