Re: virus: Meme Update #29: Copycat Shootings

Jim (magicjim@islc.net)
Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:09:38 -0500

Bill,
I am not ignoring you its just that I have unexpectedly been forced to catch up on some things that I have been avoiding. I will reply on Wednesday sorry again for the delay.
Best Wishes
Jim

Master Magician & Paranormalist
Jim Callahan magicjim@islc.net
Creator of Applied Thought Technologies
http://www.magicjim.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Sodom <sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com> Date: Sunday, June 20, 1999 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: virus: Meme Update #29: Copycat Shootings

>You are in a unique and valuable position for insight into children. I
imagine
>that they look at you with some sort of awe/intrigue/fear (as I did as a
child -
>I was unfortunate enough to have the guillotine trick done on me when I was
>about 8 - I nearly soiled myself). You must have some small percentage of
>children who wish to learn or become a magician after they see your
performance.
>Most of the children I am in contact with are what I would call "normal"
for my
>childhood - they watch some tube, but also play baseball, chase each other
round
>the neighborhood, cause mild mischief etc... have you noticed a particular
>demographic of children that have the TV bug? Is the the
suburbanites/urbanites
>- which demographic of children seem to have the largest problem with TV
>dependency?
>
>Just curious about your experience, thanks.
>
>Bill Roh
>
>Jim wrote:
>
>> It is not only the violence that is the problem. It is also the extensive
>> programming the media does. It could possibly be that I am acutely aware
of
>> it because of my business. And I agree with you on the dependence. And
that
>> is the true problem.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Master Magician & Paranormalist
>> Jim Callahan magicjim@islc.net
>> Creator of Applied Thought Technologies
>> http://wwwwwwwww.magicjim.net
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sodom <sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
>> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
>> Date: Sunday, June 20, 1999 3:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: virus: Meme Update #29: Copycat Shootings
>>
>> >I don't question that they follow behavior on TV or that they watch too
>> much and
>> >do too little - about that you get no argument from me. I simply don't
>> think
>> >that we are "saturated" with the negative images. I don't think most the
>> images
>> >are negative - nor disturbing, or bad. Just to be sure I felt good about
>> that
>> >statement, I went directly my satellite tv and ran through the
channels -
>> and
>> >sure enough, almost no violent shows at all, those that were were mostly
>> movies.
>> >Lots of baseball and meaningless drivel, but little violence. This was
at
>> 4:00,
>> >I looked again at 8:00 and it was mostly the same, a few more drama
shows,
>> but
>> >that's about it. I simply don't think the problem is in the content -
but
>> the
>> >dependence.
>> >
>> >Bill Roh
>> >
>> >Jim wrote:
>> >
>> >> It is not the desires that are undesirable it is models that are
harmful
>> >> that it supplies. For example the troubled youth that acts out in this
>> way
>> >> would not have ever reacted this way if the model for this behavior
had
>> not
>> >> been presented. The unfortunate part of the situation is that further
>> copy
>> >> cat behavior could have been squelched.
>> >>
>> >> Also television is reality for a great part of our country. They sit
in
>> >> front of it slack jawed eating crud and sucking down soda their
children
>> are
>> >> right with them and their brains become receivers acutely tuned to
the
>> >> compliance techniques used by the TV marketers. I just returned home
from
>> >> Orlando. I was working but took a few days and went to Universal and
>> Epcot.
>> >> It is absolutely obscene the physical shape our children are in. They
>> have
>> >> the bodies of people in their late twenties to early mid thirties. And
>> they
>> >> can tell you what is on every day on every major broadcasting station.
If
>> >> you are looking for a undesirable desires possibly the desire to
>> incessantly
>> >> watch is it.
>> >>
>> >> Best wishes
>> >> Jim
>> >>
>> >> Master Magician & Paranormalist
>> >> Jim Callahan magicjim@islc.net
>> >> Creator of Applied Thought Technologies
>> >> http://www.magicjim.net
>> >>
>> >> >From Bill,
>> >>
>> >> >Once again, I don't see evidence "TV saturates us with desires that
are
>> >> >undesirable". A great majority of TV does not do that, but what does,
>> like
>> >> the
>> >> >shootings, gets extra press. The exposure to violence and "bad"
things
>> is a
>> >> >permanent fixture of culture. As someone who has witnessed death
first
>> >> hand, I
>> >> >can say that television does NOT do the subject justice.
>> >
>> >
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