From: BrettMan35@webtv.net (Brett Robertson) Date sent: Fri, 28 May 1999 18:18:39 -0500 (EST) To: virus@lucifer.com Subject: Re: Manifest Science (was: RE: virus: Cow) Send reply to: virus@lucifer.com
> *Technology* is the use of "tools" to affect change. "Language" may be
> a *tool* for change. However, the worldview which creates the concepts
> by which the tools are developed is such that the tools themselves
> (cogs, wheels, wrenches) are merely the objective manifestations of the
> technology; thus, technology comes to imply a "way of doing" (or being)
> and ultimately "the way it is".
>
Language is used to communicate between the subjectiivities of
two or more people, and as such facilitates intersubjective
agreement concerning common or shared states of affairs; tools
are used by one or more people on material (this can also include
our bodies, as with weapons or surgical tools), to alter existing
states of affairs. Language is tilted towards correlating perception
and arranging cooperative action, and wide knowledge distribution,
and technology toward expanding the horizons of both perception
and action in the micro, macro and cosmic frames, and mass
production.
>
> I disagree that freedom is "not" a technology. Freedom IS a driving
> force and specialization is one of its "products". Specialization
> itself seems a special case of technology (being a tool by which the
> technology of freedom manifests objective examples that accomplishes its
> "purpose"*).
>
It's still a concept which stands for a capacity. Next you'll be
mauntasining that justice, love, sorrow, beauty and hatred are
technologies.
>
> Thus, it appears that your idea of a (subjective?) "concept" and my idea
> of an (objective) *concept* are different (mine implying a natural
> arrangement of objects which define a force for change and yours,
> perhaps, being defined by agreement and compromise regarding this
> arrangement).
>
Ther is no such thing as "objective", strictly speaking; what we
know is known by us through the portals of our perceptions, and is
subject to their limits, which may be augmented by technology, but
never supplanted by it.
>
> **purpose* implying merely that objects which describe a "concept"
> according to their natural organization are organized thus by these
> characteristics in a way that they also describe a force by which these
> characteristics are expressed in line with specifiable effects
>
You will never succeed in your sociopathic goal of consigning self-
aware human beings to the status of objects, no matter how
obfuscatorally you cloak your intent.
> Brett Lane Robertson
> Indiana, USA
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