Here's a game everyone can play ......
Am not sure how this thread started or where it went, but I've been looking
for an excuse to drop some personal observations regarding
>...I hope that's not what it applied to, cos I did the online mini-
>> I suspect this was a reference to the Myers-Briggs Personality
Practical experiment to try: Alter you mood via music, watching
With so many "lost souls" trying to establish their indentities on this
planet, it's good/interesting to see how effectively http://www.keirsey.com
is dispensing these "temperament identities" to anyone willing to show up
and do the test. Take a look at the cumulative data page:
http://keirsey.com/cgi-bin/keirsey/stats.cgi. When I first did this test,
approx. 6-8 months ago, the sample pool was at 1.5m. In February it was 2.2m
I joined all the mailing lists I could find out about on the keirsey site,
specifically iNTj and entp (the only one available ... that says something
in itself) and from both of these lists got a sense that the members were
pretty happy about having their identity established for them. I only
read/scanned a few hundred emails from each and watched to see the volume
flow over a period of a few weeks, scanning the subject headers for
interesting trends. Nothing like an intj "master mind/genuis" finding out
that he/she is indeed a master mind/genuis and arriving at the list to
announce their most recent discovery (i.e. "I'm one of you!"). Kind of like
a back-up for that mensa test done 20 years ago at school when such things
were all the rave. Sort the dumb kids from the smart kids and let the
gifted ones know they're gifted, and don't tell the less gifted anything in
case it hurts their feelings. So they act "gifted", which of course means
different things for different cultures. It's an indentity/ego thing, IMO.
So I can imagine that for the "no-cheating-in-the-test iNTj" (hahahahaha)
the sense of relief must be almost overwhelming. I can say that I was
moderately surprised, or disappointed even, when I got "Idealist -
Healer/Teacher" coming up so often, but extremely pleased with myself when I
To take some wild stabs: I would thus say that one is "given" (reported to
by means of the result page) the classification that is most NEEDED at the
time. We are telling the "sorter program" how we WANT to think, then it
tells us how we should be thinking (because this is how others who answer
the test seem to "behave", and it then goes on to provide a "bright shiny
star"/"great person" in all 16 sub-catagories that one can go and emulate.
Analysis and therapy rolled up into one neat 10-minute excercise.
The questions are pretty good (in that they stop and make one consider
<what, in general?>) and have obviously been put together with much thought
and editing/experimentation over the +- 20 years (??) this temperament
classification thing has been pursued by Dr. Keirsey (trust me, I'm a
doctor). They remind me of all the questions asked to establish whether one
Designing a more useful test
However in terms of useful data gathering, a "recording/measuring tool" (in
Kind of like "fly-by-wire" high-tech fighter planes are constantly sending
back heaps of data from "nerve points" to a central controller(s), whose
function it is to keep the plane flying, despite the "fact" that nature says
To use Question 33 as an example to make the final point:
33. Do you prize in yourself
If one considers that the "link" (or difference) between imagination and
reality, used within the above context, could be the concept known as "will"
I guess that's enough rambling. I'm interested in conversing on the topic
of "behavioural classification" with anyone who is interested, from all
sides of the fence, so to speak. I think these test have become Western
civilisation's primary "meta-programmers" now that skin colour is redundant
and English is going to win (because it has the strongest collective will)
... and that can be extremely useful and dangerous.
Dave
>test and ended up an iNTF, so no dice there.
>...I'm kinda kicking myself for not thinking of that option though -
>my recognition memory from school seems to have degraded some, I'm
>losing tags.
>> Inventory and similar systems, such as the Keirsey Personality
>> Sorter. S refers to sensing (as opposed to N for intuitive), and F
>> refers to feeling (as opposed to T for thinking). This is a guess
>> on my part. Info on the personality types can be found at
1. a strong hold of reality
2. a vivid imagination