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The final acts of great men are foreshadowed by the position they profess. Death "scripts" are written by them throughout their life and by which they gain power, but also according to which their power influences others to play the parts which seal their fate to that foretold by the philosophy they stand for.
In a subjectivistic worldview, an us-against-them mentality is set up-- objective materialist against subjective humanist. This foretells that the end times of powerful subjectivists will be like an Armageddon (as all dualistic scripts necessitate... the singularity of self which would otherwise survive is not objectively represented by the dualistic system=A0in which process is primary and product is contingent and where each part of the system-- me or you-- is similarly a *contingency* with regards to the overall survival of the worldview).
So, as death is necessary for a dualistic philosopher, and as exile from the group is an option which suggests independence (and independence is materialistic-- or supports a philosophy of independent OBJECTIVE existence); so perhaps, the environment conspired to give Socrates the end he required to fulfill his own prophecy (choosing suicide rather than social exclusion for him since Socrates' own existence would be contingent on humanistic/ subjective confirmation according to his own life-story).
Brett Lane Robertson
Indiana, USA
http://www.window.to/mindrec
MindRecreation Metaphysical Assn.
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In a message dated 5/2/99 2:37:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, carlw@hermit.net
writes:
> Socrates was offered the choice of exile or hemlock. He chose the poison.
>From what I have read, Socrates had recourse to public platform and
> Which factor do you think is most to blame for the Socratic tragedy?
>
> Radical Greek philosophical notions promoted extremist beliefs.
> Violent arguments about the nature of society leads to more widespread
> violence
> His parents failed him by not taking responsibility for him.
> Experimental theatre promoted anti-social behavior.
> Poison was just to easy to find.
>
> No! No! No! A thousand times no! The reason we respect him today is that he
> committed suicide because it was the only ethical protest he could make in
a
> society that forbade other forms of protest.
opportunity for moral suasion during his defense and as I recall it was
weak, suggesting as you and other scholars imply suicide was
I hope I have not infected anyone in this my first posting to this list.
Irena
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