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Fianna Likayvi wrote:
> Just because you are clean doesn't mean that you will > test clean.
Absolutely not. And how many of us have beat drug tests when, were the tests reliable, they would have turned up evidence of our illegal recreation.
> Earlier this year, I was suspended from school for > alcohol (all based on hearsay, nobody saw us, but had > to confess and get suspended for a week, or be > expelled if we wouldn't admit to it)
That's beautiful. Confess and legitimize our tactics or get a taste of the ol' summary.
"Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind his own business. Thanks for a nation of finks."
-William S. Burroughs, "Thanksgiving Prayer"
> But while > suspended we had to go to our local drug > rehabilitation institution and have assessments and > UAs.
Wade, last week, Heidi Nordburg wrote in response to a "get tough" argument from you, "When I was in High School, and it wasn't THAT long ago (graduated 82), kids were given a chance to turn around when they made a mistake. I'm just saying that our society is becoming more fascist and more repressive, and that there will be reactions to that."
I wonder about your reaction to Fianna's experience. Do you think the treatment that Fianna received was ethical or justifiable?
> The only thing I had that may have shown up in the UA > was alcohol. I didn't do any narcotics (in fact, I've > never done any of those nice little illegal drugs)
Sure, Fianna. Tell it to the judge. As I understand it, there exists clinical evidence that you are a meth-freak and a pot-head. I suppose you're going to tell us that we should accept YOUR WORD over SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE of your criminal activity.
> A few days later when I received the results for my UA > said I had methamphetamines, alcohol, marijuana and > several other random substances which I can't recall.
Do your parents own their home? What's its value? I'll bet there are several law enforcement agencies that would find the juxtaposition of your UA and the value of your parents home quite interesting and ripe with possibility.
> I'm not on any medication, haven't been for years so > the methamphetamines weren't there, I'd never smoked > marijuana before, and our little alcohol escapade had > happened nearly a week earlier.
So you say, but you're a proven drug addict with a history of disciplinary problems at school.
> Eh, just commenting that even though you do take a UA, > the results aren't guaranteed to be accurate. >
Personally, I find that fact that you were coerced into a confession that resulted in a mandatory investigation into your bodily fluids equally if not more disturbing than the fact that the investigative methods employed are faulty.
-KMO
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Fianna Likayvi wrote:
Just because you are clean doesn't mean that you willAbsolutely not. And how many of us have beat drug tests when, were the tests reliable, they would have turned up evidence of our illegal recreation.
test clean.
Earlier this year, I was suspended from school forThat's beautiful. Confess and legitimize our tactics or get a taste of the ol' summary.
alcohol (all based on hearsay, nobody saw us, but had
to confess and get suspended for a week, or be
expelled if we wouldn't admit to it)
"Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind his own business. Thanks for a nation of finks."
-William S. Burroughs, "Thanksgiving Prayer"
But whileWade, last week, Heidi Nordburg wrote in response to a "get tough" argument from you, "When I was in High School, and it wasn't THAT long ago (graduated 82), kids were given a chance to turn around when they made a mistake. I'm just saying that our society is becoming more fascist and more repressive, and that there will be reactions to that."
suspended we had to go to our local drug
rehabilitation institution and have assessments and
UAs.
I wonder about your reaction to Fianna's experience. Do you think the treatment that Fianna received was ethical or justifiable?
The only thing I had that may have shown up in the UASure, Fianna. Tell it to the judge. As I understand it, there exists clinical evidence that you are a meth-freak and a pot-head. I suppose you're going to tell us that we should accept YOUR WORD over SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE of your criminal activity.
was alcohol. I didn't do any narcotics (in fact, I've
never done any of those nice little illegal drugs)
A few days later when I received the results for my UADo your parents own their home? What's its value? I'll bet there are several law enforcement agencies that would find the juxtaposition of your UA and the value of your parents home quite interesting and ripe with possibility.
said I had methamphetamines, alcohol, marijuana and
several other random substances which I can't recall.
I'm not on any medication, haven't been for years soSo you say, but you're a proven drug addict with a history of disciplinary problems at school.
the methamphetamines weren't there, I'd never smoked
marijuana before, and our little alcohol escapade had
happened nearly a week earlier.
Eh, just commenting that even though you do take a UA,Personally, I find that fact that you were coerced into a confession that resulted in a mandatory investigation into your bodily fluids equally if not more disturbing than the fact that the investigative methods employed are faulty.
the results aren't guaranteed to be accurate.
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