virus: virus: Faith vs. Reason (continued)

virus: Faith vs. Reason (continued)

David McFadzean (david@lucifer.com)
Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:32:23 -0700

At 11:18 AM 3/15/99 -0500, Reed Konsler wrote:

>Agreed. The inquisition was an act of fear, not faith.
>
>Hatred, fear, anger, rage, revenge, bloodlust...each cloaks itself
>in sheepskin.

Actions based on these emotions tend to look bad/evil from the observers point of view. These negative emotions are intellectualized (transformed into beliefs) and justified by faith and reason alike. The main difference (I propose) is that if the justification is based on reason, then there is a recourse other than violence.

At 09:52 AM 3/11/99 -0500, Reed Konsler wrote:
>>You are claiming that you can check fundamentals for
>>consistency even when you may not have a consistent
>>interpretation of those same fundamentals?
>
>I don't understand what you mean. I think one checks
>against premises or fundamentals. Verification of them
>is impossible. So Kuhn says, anyway. As for inconsistency,
>I stand as an example that what may seem inconsistent on
>one level is not on another. Given this, I don't see the
>problem. Could you give an example?

As long as the inconsistencies are only apparent, I have no argument.

>I'm not sure what to say next. What do you think?

I'd like to hear what you think the salient differences are between faith and reason. 

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