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Blunderov
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RE: virus: Religious war
« on: 2005-05-21 04:14:53 » |
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[Blunderov] Found this (unattributed) on the net.
"religious war: an argument about who has the better imaginary friend."
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Re: virus: Religious war
« Reply #1 on: 2005-05-24 16:01:19 » |
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>On 5/21/05, Blunderov <squooker@mweb.co.za> wrote:
> [Blunderov] Found this (unattributed) on the net.
> "religious war: an argument about who has the better imaginary friend."
Talking of which, one thing I've noticed lately is the introduction of
the term 'christianist' as an anlogue to the way in which the term
'islamist' (or even leftist) has been used.
http://www.christiansciencemonitor.com/2005/0520/p18s04-hfes.html
"Christianist" is evidently formed on the analogy of "Islamist."
Islamist is in the dictionaries meaning either an Islamic studies
specialist or simply an adherent of Islam - a Muslim.
Here's what Wikipedia says about "Islamism": "a political ideology
derived from the conservative religious views of Muslim
fundamentalism. It holds Islam is not only a religion, but also a
political system that governs the legal, economic, and social
imperatives of the state."
"Islamist" is a term many Western journalists and scholars came to
after deciding that "fundamentalism," which they'd been using, wasn't
quite right - in part because it seemed to be an improper borrowing
from Christianity.
And so now, after the borrowed "fundamentalist" has been returned,
perhaps with polite thanks, to Protestantism, the "ism" of Islamism is
being applied to some Christians - the ones seen to be adherents of
"Christianism," of what we might call "political Christianity." Still
with me?
Specifically, Christianists are linked with another "ism" -
"dominionism" - a political ideology that interprets a passage from
Genesis (1:26) as commanding Christians to bring societies under the
rule of the Word of God.
It's not exactly a compliment to be called a "Christianist." The
Portland (Ore.) Indymedia website posted a rant a while back against
"Christianist ayatollahs." But the term looks like a useful way to
denote the political Christians of the right. And it has a certain
symmetry with "Islamist": If Muslims of a political slant are
"Islamist," then perhaps it makes sense to call Christians of a
certain political slant "Christianists."
This seems to be a useful memetic tool which should be encouraged.
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Re: virus: Religious war
« Reply #2 on: 2005-05-24 18:42:51 » |
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> >On 5/21/05, Blunderov <squooker@mweb.co.za> wrote:
> > [Blunderov] Found this (unattributed) on the net.
> > "religious war: an argument about who has the better imaginary friend."
It's a classic Emo Phillips one-liner. I try to inject it into a
conversation at least once a month.
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Re: Re: virus: Religious war
« Reply #3 on: 2005-05-25 09:22:43 » |
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>From: Kharin <kharin@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: virus: Religious war
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>>On 5/21/05, Blunderov <squooker@mweb.co.za> wrote:
>Talking of which, one thing I've noticed lately is the introduction of
>the term 'christianist' as an anlogue to the way in which the term
>'islamist' (or even leftist) has been used.
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>Here's what Wikipedia says about "Islamism": "a political ideology
>derived from the conservative religious views of Muslim
>fundamentalism. It holds Islam is not only a religion, but also a
>political system that governs the legal, economic, and social
>imperatives of the state."
The term I use and recommend is Supremacist. I grew up listening to the Focus on the Family radio program, and continued listening several years into adulthood. Both there, and in the church I attended in Warren, Michigan, and at Pensacola Christian College, I was exposed to Christian Supremacism. Phrases like "taking back America for God" or "putting King Jesus back on the throne" were commonplace. This is an interpretation of religious freedom identical to that of Islamic Supremacists. The shared idea of these movements is that since their nations have traditions from one particular religion, "freedom of religion" means that other religions are free to practice in privacy as tolerated guests. In this interpretation, the public sphere is a place on which a majority religion can plant a flag as the sole basis for legitimate authority, as Judge Moore did in Alabama.
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