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AW: virus: atheistic mission - converting believers
« on: 2004-10-10 17:35:07 » |
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<snip>I worked with a group that is trying to make rationality more virulent. The problem is that rationality is rare, intense and seems very cultish to the majority of people these days.</snip>
Exactly - the question is how to alter that impression of rationality. Disguise it as something else!
Yes, it is urgent, but urgency creates pressure, and pressure creates reactivity. It must trickle in slowly; at least, painlessly... The zeal in the background for motivation, but self-restraint for success...
We need Trojans for rationality!
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AW: virus: atheistic mission - converting believers
« Reply #1 on: 2004-10-12 09:09:45 » |
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<snip>Have you (Björn) left irrationality to embrace rationality due to the comfy appeal of hard reason?</snip>
Well not exactly. Things were more complicated as is the usual case, having to do with enculturation and certain accidental aspects (never forget to consider the aleatoric! We're not so consistent as we like to believe...) - it was no decision on the spot as your questions seems to imply.
But again, that's not what I propagate here: I am asking, which is the psychologically most successful way of making the world more rational? Censorship obviously isn't; burning books never does any good - at least if you do not do it in secret and have absolute control over its being revealed or not. The best bet would be subliminal cultural impulses - but there might be more effective ways, such as good arguments.
Picture yourself standing in front of a supermarket, holding a rational version of the "Watchtower" (what would be its name, I wonder?) and distributing it to the moderately interestet... Ain't that an image absolutely convincing? :-D
<snip>While folk have God at the helm they are his royal children with grand purpose and unbounded love. Without that God they are in great danger of seeing the self as little more than a lonely pilot of a stinking alimentary canal.</snap>
Aye, I know 'tis true! I adressed this fundamentally ethical question somewhere in this thread... The question is, do we see ourselves as "a lonely pilot of a stinking alimentary canal"? Or is there not something more appealing about our position? I wouldn't go as far as Dawkins, probably, and talk about grandeur all over the place... but then again, there is something to it. Can't we elaborate that, give it a memetically virulent polish and write it on our banners?
Björn
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